Dual SVS SS Package?

[Privateer]

Are there any dealers for SVS or is it all online? I am not going to drop $4995US on something I can not test out.

 

[silversurfer]

They are online only, but they do have a 45 day trial period. If you decide to send them back, you are out shipping.

 

[av-man]

Take a look at these subs
http://www.triadspeakers.com/products/irpps.html#
These are 18" 500 watts. You can get them with built in amps or rack amps. They are available in custom finishes and if you find a dealer near you, then you can hear them before you buy. MSRP $2600 ea.
I don't know much about SVS subs but the guy's on here seem to like them.

 

[craigsub]

Privateer - Rather than the SS package, look at dual PB12-Ultras. A pair is $2400 - $2600, depending on finish, and will have as good, possibly better, performance when compared to the SS pair.

I have a pair ordered myself.

 

[JerryElbow]

As a former hifi retailer myself, I was VERY leery about buying a speaker I'd never heard before. Even with a 30-day or 45-day trial, you're still stuck with shipping costs to send the product back. However, I read so many great reviews about the SVS line of subwoofers and I recognized the economics of buying directly from the manufacturers (bypassing distributors and retailers both, each with their very necessary markups on the price) and decided to chance it. I have no regrets at all. I'm thrilled with my SVS PC-Plus sub and would stack it up against any sub at twice the price at any local hifi retailer. The folks at SVS are incredibly helpful (email them if you have any questions) and they have legendary customer service. The subs are built incredibly well and the sound is awesome.

In fact, I was so taken by the whole SVS experience that it emboldened me to buy a complete set of replacement speakers from a very similar, online-only retailer called AV123. I just got a set of Onix Rocket speakers (RS850s for mains, RSC200 for center and RS250 MK IIs for rears) that are absolutely gorgeous, sound incredible and would have cost me several thousand dollars if purchased through hifi retailers and less than three thousand purchased directly.

If you go to AV123.com, they have a link in their forums to (I think) audioenvy.com, which can hook you up to owners in your area of equipment from a couple of online-only vendors, including AV123 and SVS. These owners are apparently so thrilled with their equipment that they don't mind doing demos in their homes to qualified strangers.

 

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

Whats wrong with your Martin-Logan sub?

 

[mulester7]

Privateer - Rather than the SS package, look at dual PB12-Ultras. A pair is $2400 - $2600, depending on finish, and will have as good, possibly better, performance when compared to the SS pair. I have a pair ordered myself.

.....right on....just noticed this post....Craigsub would be able to swing a 200,000 system tomorrow, but his priorities appear to be in good order....sure, SVS created a pair of cylinders (SS) for those who lean to appearance as #1....a pair priced at two prices, for, let's say, haha, the usually tin-eared Elite system-owner, who values his friend's praisings over what his ears can probably detect, and audio is honestly one of the lesser passions in him....bring on the snake-skins and ego-meter.....

.....let's look at this SVS 12 inch ultra subwoofer....

.....rubber surround, I personally won't buy anything but that from here on concerning any speaker element if possible....97 oz magnet....3 inch voice coil....a large excursion movement, but still tight....metal cone, here it comes....can take the Full-Output, of an AP&L sub-station at four in the morning....didn't that paint a picture in the moonlight?....and most importantly, Clean....that's far enough for me....

.....subs are supposed to support tastefully, and that says accents along with the smooths....you got to have one that performs with authority, and can overpower quickly, at least that's what I've come to....comments?....

.....question....doesn't turning up the bass tone-control to the mains and surrounds with surround receivers, also add that much proportionate low db-increase to the sub signal also?....that could clean up some systems right there, back off the extra bass tone control, at least some, and let the sub do it's job, cut at about 55-75 hz....listen to a couple of your favorite songs with the sub off, then bring up the sub to where it supports tastefully, with the receiver's bass tone controls at least, approaching flat....or do whatever, you know if you hear mud or whompy.....

.....I'm anxious for the report from two forum members as they visit the showroom at SVS-Ohio....SVS really don't play, I got the scars to prove it.....

.....and, Gentlemen, may we continue, to check our egos at the door.....

 

[9f9c7z]

Never heard the SV Sub product. I strongly suggest you read Ray’s recent review of the Velodyne HGS-15x here on audioholic.com before you throw money at SVS. Even with the ability to return the SVS product, you’re looking at $200+ in shipping fees to return the subs, IF you decided to return them. Folks here seem to really like the SVS subs, but you are in SVS-friendly territory here, not likely to see anything seriously negative about SVS or the product on this forum. The SVS has nice veneer finishes available that Velodyne’s HGS line doesn’t, so that may be an issue.

Velodyne’s DD line is also worth looking into. Same amp and driver as the HGS line, but a bunch of digital controls imbedded, OSD, and with nice wood veneer finishes. The 15-in model can be had for around $2500/ea.

I also like Craig’s suggestion of twin Hsu subs, tho I would be inclined to wait for the soon to be reintroduced passive subs. Hsu is also online ordering but they also have some dealers sprinkled around. Might be one in your area.

That’s another point…have you considered passive subs as opposed to ones with the amps built in? You can get a couple high-quality passive subs (w/veneer finish) for $600-$700/ea. A quality stereo amp isn’t going to cost you $3700 (the rest of your budget). With passive subs, you are dragging another speaker cable around. The ac power cord and interconnect cable stays with the amp. With active subs the speaker cable is inside the sub but you are dragging around an ac power cord AND an interconnect cable.

It gets better, and requires more wall outlets … you can get a pair of Rane PE-17 (crossover and parametric eq) for $350/ea (free s/h) or just one PE-17 if you are running mono thru the subs. Add that to the $1300 cost of the subs. You still have more than enough cash ($3000) left over for an amp…and you have tremendous control over the shaping of the low-end sound, more than you can ever get included with active subs.

Maybe there is something wrong with the way I am looking at this, but I don’t see the value in an active subwoofer, especially when a sub is an amalgamation of off-the-shelf parts, in particular with a plate amp embedded. AV-Man suggested Triad...ditto, because they are available without the plate amp, tho I think they are pricy with an external amp.

 

[MacManNM]

Are there any dealers for SVS or is it all online? I am not going to drop $4995US on something I can not test out.

Just to let you know Buckeye and I will be visiting the SVS factory for a tour on July 22nd. We are also going to get a chance to listen to their entire line there. If you have any questions let us know and we'll see if we can't get you an unbiased answer.

 

[gthomas]

Svs Ss

I talked with Tom from SVS (via e-mail) early this week and he said the difference between the CS Ultra and the SS is the finish. I will be getting 2 of the CS Ultras tomorrow with the Crown amp.
gthomas

 

[Privateer]

Whats wrong with your Martin-Logan sub?

I do not have a ML sub.

I strongly suggest you read Ray’s recent review of the Velodyne HGS-15x here on audioholic.com before you throw money at SVS.

I already own a velodyne HGS-15, but everyone on this forum were talking SVS up so I thought why not try it.

 

[mulester7]

.....good to see youse back.....

 

[craigsub]

I do not have a ML sub.



I already own a velodyne HGS-15, bit everyone on this forum were talking SVS up so I thought why not try it.

Privateer - I have a DD-18 and a pair of PB12-Ultras - both are darn good subwoofers. I think you will have fun with an SVS ...

 

[karsfri]

I am also planning to buy svs subwoofer next month, the PC-ULTRA but whereas I live in Iceland I have hardly the option off returning it so I'm buying it totally blindfully. However I have full confidence in them after spening hours of reading every single review of all their products I could find.

On a different matter, I heard a rumor that they where going to build a normal speakers soon. Is there anyone who can confirm that rumor.

 

[craigsub]

I am also planning to buy svs subwoofer next month, the PC-ULTRA but whereas I live in Iceland I have hardly the option off returning it so I'm buying it totally blindfully. However I have full confidence in them after spening hours of reading every single review of all their products I could find.

On a different matter, I heard a rumor that they where going to build a normal speakers soon. Is there anyone who can confirm that rumor.

The PC-Ultra is an excellent choice, as long as you like clean, accurate, deep bass, you will be happy.

Yes, they are entering the speaker market - but with more entry level stuff. Ron Stimpson posted the first system will be for a 5.1 deal using the PB-10 ISD for about $1000. I am not sure if the $1000 included the sub or not, but either way, I doubt the system will be up to the PC-Ultra's standards.

 

[mulester7]

I am also planning to buy svs subwoofer next month, the PC-ULTRA but whereas I live in Iceland I have hardly the option off returning it so I'm buying it totally blindfully. However I have full confidence in them after spening hours of reading every single review of all their products I could find.

On a different matter, I heard a rumor that they where going to build a normal speakers soon. Is there anyone who can confirm that rumor.

......Iceland, how neat....isn't this World-Wide Internet something?.....

.....Karsfri, I just don't see how you won't enjoy the powered Ultra cylinder....imo, you should make attempts to have the bass tone controls on the receiver set at least approaching flat....let that sub do it's job without extra strain for cleanness.....

.....did everyone notice that +/- "2" db 18-150 hz rating?....yes, that just stepped away from the common-place.....

.....boys, I may wade out into the water again....I just ran across an old friend from high school that's single....a few phone conversations have rendered good feelings and calmed conversation....all indications are she's only gained class through the years.....I'm going to try and not let her Lexus and in-ground backyard swimming pool enter the picture, but I'm afraid they will, haha.....

.....calmed conversation and attempted emotional support are where it's at, imo....just because these women are nuts, doesn't mean us guys shouldn't at least try to help 'em.....

 

[mulester7]

.....and seriously, on this SVS SS thread....brought to you by Herley's Market-("Sure, We'll Sack 'Em"), (You know 'Em!), located down by Hank's gas station....

.....ahem......

.........I felt a break-through, when I reached the age and experience of not being intimidated by humans....period....new or friend....I only wish I would have been alerted earlier, by a certain source in life that says Our God is no respecter of persons/humans, so we should not be either, but, we usually turn to God last, don't we?.....

.....does that mean we should EVER be haughty in that comfortableness once attained?....hardly....try to keep things light, Gentlemen, imo, in ALL applications, and the eyes say much.....

.....it took me a long time to be comfortable with humans, whatever, and what kept coming back to me, was something somebody said, I don't remember who, probably relative, the jest of which was,....son, NOBODY, is better than you, because, EVERYBODY, has to sh-- between a pair of shoes.....

 

[Tomorrow]

.........I felt a break-through, when I reached the age and experience of not being intimidated by humans....period....new or friend....I only wish I would have been alerted earlier, by a certain source in life that says Our God is no respecter of persons/humans, so we should not be either, but, we usually turn to God last, don't we?.....Mulester




We are honored to have your sagacity and humor so intricately bound here with the mundane world of a/v. Single, Muley? How ever did that happen?! Tell us more. And keep checking that ego at the door.

 

[mulester7]

.........I felt a break-through, when I reached the age and experience of not being intimidated by humans....period....new or friend....I only wish I would have been alerted earlier, by a certain source in life that says Our God is no respecter of persons/humans, so we should not be either, but, we usually turn to God last, don't we?.....Mulester




We are honored to have your sagacity and humor so intricately bound here with the mundane world of a/v. Single, Muley? How ever did that happen?! Tell us more. And keep checking that ego at the door.

.....but how did you mean all that, Rjbudz?....I promise you, I don't have an ego to check at any door....I'm worthless and the one that should know.....

......the marriage was snake-bit from day one....she listened to her Moma more than she listened to her heart, time proved....I didn't give up for a long time, about 17 years, but I discovered when one don't love, the other one eventually can't either....have had a couple of relationships since, but the grass weren't no greener....I got to have respect for a woman, and I ain't sure I've REALLY been in love with any.....at 56, I have also been experiencing the need for companionship, over being able to swing off the chandelier, if some of you young hounds know what I mean.....

.....gotta' go get ready....she says she ain't gonna' ride on the V-Max....guys, she ain't got a chance....we'll be walking around the immaculently-lighted Arkansas State Capital and Grounds within three hours....gone....ladders......

 

[mulester7]

We are honored to have your sagacity and humor so intricately bound here with the mundane world of a/v. Single, Muley? How ever did that happen?! Tell us more. And keep checking that ego at the door.

.....Rjbudz, I think you meant this good....if so, thanks, and maybe I'm a little gun-shy as per past reactions on this board.....

.....I meant that about the lack of ego....and I'm glad of it....any elevation of ego usually all too soon, becomes a vicious animal....many suspected inflated egos, are actually just fronts, for baggage carried, that are packed with little confidence, imo....