dts vs. dolby surround 5.1

[mtrycrafts]

If the movie has the option of DTS or DD always decode in DTS, or always decode in the highest quality possible.

And what do you base that quality on?

 

[Privateer]

And what do you base that quality on?

Sound quality? There is nothing else to base it on. DTS has less compression and a far superior sound to DD.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Sound quality? There is nothing else to base it on. DTS has less compression and a far superior sound to DD.

Less compression is not it as their numbers are deceiving. they include the algorythm hence the need for the numbers, unlike the DD.

And, comparing is difficult unless you have equal masters and cuts to compare, changing only the algorythm. Not done to date. So, it is one of those preference issues at best.

 

[Privateer]

Less compression is not it as their numbers are deceiving. they include the algorythm hence the need for the numbers, unlike the DD.

And, comparing is difficult unless you have equal masters and cuts to compare, changing only the algorythm. Not done to date. So, it is one of those preference issues at best.

Why are we even arguing this? Go out and buy/rent movies that you can compare and all you have to do is listen. Why are all the superior sounding movies in DTS, gladiator, pitch black? Listen to those same movies in DD and it will become apparent real quick which format sounds better. If you do not think so then it is time to upgrade what ever equipment you are using.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Why are we even arguing this? Go out and buy/rent movies that you can compare and all you have to do is listen. Why are all the superior sounding movies in DTS, gladiator, pitch black? Listen to those same movies in DD and it will become apparent real quick which format sounds better. If you do not think so then it is time to upgrade what ever equipment you are using.

Why are we discussing this? Just for the specific reason you suggest to compare an apple and an orange. Not comparable as you have no idea that it is the DTS codec that is causing the difference, or an external manipulation of the EQ and mixing. Might as well compare at different levels. Why not? After all, one will sound different.

 

[Privateer]

Why are we discussing this? Just for the specific reason you suggest to compare an apple and an orange. Not comparable as you have no idea that it is the DTS codec that is causing the difference, or an external manipulation of the EQ and mixing. Might as well compare at different levels. Why not? After all, one will sound different.

Then why don't we compare equipment and see who wins.

 

[zumbo]

Then why don't we compare equipment and see who wins.

BECAUSE I WILL! Got a great deal online too!

My dad can beat-up your dad!

 

[tbewick]

I found the following link quite informative:

http://www.spannerworks.net/reference/10_1a.asp

It is a quite detailed technical evaluation of both formats. I personally agree with mtrycrafts, that the two technologies are different and cannot be compared precisely.

From the above link, one thing that I thought was an important point is that DTS has most of the 'work' done in the studio, and is less affected by the receiver you're using.

I think DD is the more cunning technology, because it is quite an achievement to get such consistently good sound quality using such a small bit rate.

 

[Privateer]

Yamaha RX-V1400-receiver
Adcom GFA-7605-amp
Adcom ACE-315-power conditioner
Yamaha S840-dvd
Yamaha CDC-645-cd
MB Quart QLS 830's-front & rear
MB Quart QLS 330-ctr
NHT SW12-sub
Old Sony tv (next upgrade)

This is what you run zumbo, that is it?

 

[Privateer]

If the movie is encoded in DD then watch it in DD and if the movie is encoded in DTS watch it in DTS. If the movie gives a choice of DTS or DD always decode in DTS because all you have to do is listen.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yamaha RX-V1400-receiver
Adcom GFA-7605-amp
Adcom ACE-315-power conditioner
Yamaha S840-dvd
Yamaha CDC-645-cd
MB Quart QLS 830's-front & rear
MB Quart QLS 330-ctr
NHT SW12-sub
Old Sony tv (next upgrade)

This is what you run zumbo, that is it?

What's his components have to do with the price of tea in China? Or the DD vs DTS comparison? Absolutely nothing.

 

[zumbo]

Privateer,
You made this immature statement.

Then why don't we compare equipment and see who wins.

Then I, acting like a 10 year old, made this statement.

BECAUSE I WILL! Got a great deal online too!

My dad can beat-up your dad!

The reason intended was to try to show you how stupid your statement was. I guess you didn't get it.

As far as equipment goes, I have seen a $5000 four wheeler outrun a $50000 Porche! So, as we all know, it's not how much you spend. Nor is it the name on the equipment. It just has to plain kick butt. I have spent tons of money on different systems. Sometimes the outcome can shock even the most educated phile. Sometimes the outcome can be very painful. It's just one of those things.

So, to sum this up, I will explain why I am here. I joined to get more knowledge. And, when I can, I like to help. I am not here to argue about who has the toughest dad!

 

[shokhead]

for me, the problem seems to be in the voices.. they sound very flat coming out of the center speaker with DTS during concert footage.

Not DTS music disc's.

 

[Privateer]

Think what you want about DD or DTS but I am done with this thread.

 

[shokhead]

Are you mad?

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

I have both Gladiator dvd's - DD and DTS 6.1 ES Discrete. 6.1 ES Discrete is the best sounding format currently out. Standard DTS IMO is slightly more dynamic than DD, but ES Discrete is plain better if you have a 6.1 or 7.1 setup compared to DD Surround EX (I have several of those dvd's also).

 

[pikers]

Think what you want about DD or DTS but I am done with this thread.

Hang on, you're getting reinforcments!

Let Mtry hang himself with countering WELL KNOWN fact regarding this issue. It doesn't matter how the end result happens; the fact that is that DTS will outstrip DD in nearly all SQ testing. EASILY DBTd.

And, it isn't apples and oranges. DTS and DD are in one-on-one competition for your earspace. When the chips fall (and they did eight years ago) well, it put DTS on top for now.

Like all enthusiasts, I hope DD comes back with both fists to create some more competition. The coolest thing they did in awhile was the real-time encoding that you see on some video games. If DTS could do this, and have the same exposure as DD (not having to hunt down DTS titles), DD would have a real fight on its hands...

 

[racquetman]

And, it isn't apples and oranges. DTS and DD are in one-on-one competition for your earspace.

Well, it is apples and oranges when the bit rates are different. DTS normally comes off the disc at a higher bit rate than DD. Therefore it should sound better.

This argument is like saying 44.1 khz / 16 bit PCM sounds better than 128 kbps mp3. No kidding. Of course it does.

If you want an apples to apples comparison, then the bitrates have to be equal. Then you can argue which codec is superior.

 

[hopjohn]

Reinforcements? This argument is nearly 5 months old pikers. C'mon, let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[brian32672]

Reinforcements? This argument is nearly 5 months old pikers. C'mon, let sleeping dogs lie.

Yep I agree. Or just start a new thread
Hey john, did you get my chicklet for your Start a new thread post