DTS 5.1 vs Dolby 5.1 for Concert dvd

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mnnc

Full Audioholic
Recently purchased a concert dvd (SEAL-Live in Paris) that gave me the choice of pcm 2.0 stereo, Dolby 5.1, and DTS 5.1 in audio setup menu. Now I assumed that the DTS mode would sound best as I proceeded to play concert. Sounded pretty good through my RX-V2500 and Yamaha 750 player. Well, I later went to dvd menu and switched setup to Dolby 5.1 and it sounded much better. Sounstage was higher and more crisp as it should be. Is this normal or should DTS sound better? My recv'r was registering the proper decoding but regular Dolby 5.1 sounded better than the DTS mode. I used standard surround mode on recv'r for both setings in my 5.0 Boston system(powered towers). DTS does sound better for movies in most cases that I have experienced but not for this concert dvd. Thanks in advance.
 
WndrBr3d

WndrBr3d

Full Audioholic
It all honestly depends on how the concert was recorded and mastered.

A lot of concert DVDs are mastered from the sound board, which usually is placed on a stereo track recorder.

For this reason, normally while listening to concert DVDs, I'll seek out the Stereo (Dolby 2.0, PCM) tracks over the 'surround' tracks. This way, I'm listening to the concert how it was originally heard.

In some cases the concert venues will hang microphones up through the venue to capture 'atmosphere' sound, which will usually be placed in the rear channels on a surround mix.

I guess in the end, listen to whichever sounds best to you! :)
 
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mnnc

Full Audioholic
Thinking about it, you are correct. I mean as many live shows as I have seen none were in surround. The music is presented in stereo and the venue or electronics give it effects. Thanks for the insight that I somehow lost and should have known. I guess being new to the HT thing I got lost in the 'supposed magic' of it all. BTW...the stereo 2.0 track sounds super and the Dolby 5.1 just brings out applause a bit more. The DTS mix is not impressive but again as you said, the show was recorded in stereo so I am not surprised. I'll reserve multi chan'l for movies and sacd/dvda rather than concert video. Thanks again.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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mnnc said:
Thinking about it, you are correct. I mean as many live shows as I have seen none were in surround.
mnnc said:
Not sure what you mean or imply? Please expand on this.


The music is presented in stereo and the venue or electronics give it effects.

Or this ;)

but again as you said, the show was recorded in stereo so I am not surprised. Thanks again.

How is he sure? Was he there? Maybe he was? Delos records in 5.1 ;)
 
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9f9c7z

Banned
Pink Floyd did their concerns in surround...DSOTM was originally performed in 6-channel surround. Depending on the venue, each band member may have had their own sound on stage with larger venues having a mix board and sound reinforcement equipment.
 
WndrBr3d

WndrBr3d

Full Audioholic
Having worked audio at several venues, I can safely say that the audio coming into the sound board is in fact multi-channel. Each mic having it's own channel. When mixing out output and recording, USUALLY, those signals are sampled in stereo to the venue (R/L pods) and to a recording device (sometimes a 16 or 24 track recorder).

When mastering music discs, these recordings are usually muxed using the same sound board method to reproduce the concert audio (R/L stereo), but other times they process the music further and produce surround tracks.

A popular form of doing this is running the stereo through a Dolby Pro Logic software processor producing six discreet channels, which then are enhanced and adjusted to sound balanced.

After that, the 5.1 is encoded either in Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS. DTS of course having the higher bitrate and better sound quality (depending on encoding hardware/software used).

I understand that not EVERY concert is the same, nor is every DVD concert the same. This is just the way it's USUALLY done.

As I said in my original post:

I guess in the end, listen to whichever sounds best to you! ;)
 
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