Does anyone bi-amp with multichannel amp?

[PENG]

The 5ES weighs about the same with 1 channel less.

Oh come on, that's easy.











Mystery solved.[/QUOTE]

That's so funny I wish you would let me forward a copy to those real Sony engineers for validation... Or may be we should copy also the CEO. They may offer you the top post in their Marketing department so it may not be a bad idea either.

 

[Seth=L]

It doesn't take much of a brain to realize there's money to be saved by making as few changes as possible while maintaining the image of being on the cutting edge.

 

[sjcguy]

Hi guys,
you know more about the 5ES and HK 5800 than the owner myself .
Anyway, I have the same though about my Sony ES: it's defective one.
The PA5800 sounds good to me but it's not quite good to you then there must be better amps out there that I haven't had a chance to listen to.
thanks
tran.

 

[ichigo]

Same power supply, capacitance shared between channels...I don't really see a difference except doubling the amps might give you slightly more power, but on the other hand, a second electrical signal is just another path for more noise.

 

[sjcguy]

One last question: a guy at my local wants to sell carver TFM-45 in excellent condition. How much should I offer him ? I don't need that much power but I love the meters. I really want the emotiva XPA-3/XPA-5 because it's new and has the remote trigger to turn and retire PA5800 for stereo only. One problem is that the XPA-3/5 is too big for my TV stand and I need a floor stand for it.
thanks.

 

[Seth=L]

I always try to find out what the individual is asking for the item. $300 seems to be around the going rate for that amplifier. I would say anything over $350 is pushing it.

The Carver TFM-45 is part of the "Transfer Function Modified" series. Bob Carver designed and manufactured (limited production) a pair of high power tube mono blocks dubbed Silver Seven. These mono blocks were among the most costly of amplifiers at the time and still hold a high collector's value. The TFM-45 was designed by Bob to prove a point, and to get the tube sound out of a solid state design while reducing the end cost to the consumer. Basically, he wanted to prove he could make a budget amplifier that was sonically identical to the high end amplifiers of the time period. Other amplifiers that Bob had copied were the Conrad Johnson Premier 5 mono blocks with the Carver M-1.0t and he also copied the Mark Levinson ML-2 (Class A solid state) with the Carver M-1.5t. The TFM-45 and M-4.0t both copy the Carver Silver Seven mono blocks.

 

[walter duque]

One last question: a guy at my local wants to sell carver TFM-45 in excellent condition. How much should I offer him ? I don't need that much power but I love the meters. I really want the emotiva XPA-3/XPA-5 because it's new and has the remote trigger to turn and retire PA5800 for stereo only. One problem is that the XPA-3/5 is too big for my TV stand and I need a floor stand for it.
thanks.

I owned the TM-45 for many years and still think it's a great amp. If you can get it for $350.-- pick it up, I've seen them go for $600.--

 

[Seth=L]

I owned the TM-45 for many years and still think it's a great amp. If you can get it for $350.-- pick it up, I've seen them go for $600.--

Is this your call sign?

 

[walter duque]

Is this your call sign?

Can you fill me in, I don't get it?

 

[sjcguy]

Tfm-45 for $300 but I really want the XPA-5/3
I am confused again.

how about this?
get the TFM-45 and XPA-3, sell the PA5800.
tran

 

[walter duque]

Tfm-45 for $300 but I really want the XPA-5/3
I am confused again.

how about this?
get the TFM-45 and XPA-3, sell the PA5800.

tran

Take the Carver for $300.-- and take it from there. It's a great amp.

 

[Seth=L]

Can you fill me in, I don't get it?

Somehow, unlike the rest of us, you have quotes within quotes. I can't find an explanation for it, but you're the only one that does it.

Normally it would look like the quote above, but somehow you always get this...

Can you fill me in, I don't get it?

It would seem to indicate you're intentionally adding quote HTML around the quotes that you make.

Broken up it looks like this.

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The *'s are generic numbers, when you auto quote it assigns a number that designates the location of a specific post allowing posters to refer to the exact post that was made.

 

[walter duque]

Somehow, unlike the rest of us, you have quotes within quotes. I can't find an explanation for it, but you're the only one that does it.

Normally it would look like the quote above, but somehow you always get this...



It would seem to indicate you're intentionally adding quote HTML around the quotes that you make.

Broken up it looks like this.

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The *'s are generic numbers, when you auto quote it assigns a number that designates the location of a specific post allowing posters to refer to the exact post that was made.

I never realized this, thanks for filling me in. Now how is this, good.

 

[Seth=L]

That's how it would look normally, yes.

 

[sjcguy]

hi guys,
I just picked up the TFM-45 which is in excellent condition and the manual was new like just out of the box. One problem is that it's too powerful that the needles barely move due to my listening level. I will crank up the volume this weekend.
I am very happy with the TFM-45 and I kinda regret that I fried my old spectrascan amp. Now I realized my old amp may sounded as good as this carver.
tran

 

[bandphan]

hi guys,
I just picked up the TFM-45 which is in excellent condition and the manual was new like just out of the box. One problem is that it's too powerful that the needles barely move due to my listening level. I will crank up the volume this weekend.
I am very happy with the TFM-45 and I kinda regret that I fried my old spectrascan amp. Now I realized my old amp may sounded as good as this carver.
tran

It isn't too powerful. Many people do not realize it only takes a few watts to drive speakers and where you need the power is headroom. As for the sound, well you just realized that amps sound the same when operating within their normal specs.

 

[Seth=L]

It isn't too powerful. Many people do not realize it only takes a few watts to drive speakers and where you need the power is headroom. As for the sound, well you just realized that amps sound the same when operating within their normal specs.

The Carver is designed to be acoustically different than most amplifiers. It's design is meant to duplicate the sound of the Silver Seven tube monoblocks.

 

[sjcguy]

to be honest, i shouldn't say they sound the same w.o a/b comparison.
However, I spent 3 hours last night with the new amp at very low volume and I didn't miss anything, sounded so sweet and pleasant. I temporary used the Marantz SR7000 to drive the speakers while looking for the amp and it just struggled so hard that forced me to get the amp asap. I am happy that i didn't get the HK3490.
One thing I found that when I turn off the amp first w/o pre-amp, I can still have the amp drives the speakers for a few second but the sound is dying out.
That must be driven by a huge caps? does it do any harm to my speakers?
thanks guys,
tran.

 

[KEW]

One problem is that it's too powerful that the needles barely move due to my listening level. I will crank up the volume this weekend.

I don't know about the Carver, but many amps with meters have a switch to change the meter sensitivity for this reason. Usually it is on the front, but sometimes it is hidden in the back.

 

[sjcguy]

Take the Carver for $300.-- and take it from there. It's a great amp.

Holly cow, I have been observing a few TFM-45s on ebay and one was bid for $450.
The guy who sold me the amp has the CT-17 and he is asking for $150. It think it's good price too but I probably don't need to replace my HK PT2500.