Denon Rolls Out 10 New A/V Receivers

[BoredSysAdmin]

Denon just announced its 2010 lineup, which includes a crap-ton of new A/V receivers. The company totally revamped its entire lineup, releasing ten new A/V receivers at each price point from $249 to $1,999. The whole line got some fine upgrades, too. Every model now rocks 3D-friendly HDMI 1.4, audio return channel and Consumer Electronics Control support. Analog-to-HDMI conversion and HD Audio decoding from Dolby to DTS is also included, although not in $249 entry-level model. Most models will hit retailers in the coming months so it might be best to hold off your next A/V purchase until the model in your perspective price-point launches. Wouldn’t want you to get buyers remorse.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/denon-2011-receiver-blu-ray-headphones
http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/04/26/denon-rolls-out-10-new-av-receivers/

 

[adk highlander]

That is cool but where is the mid-level prepro they were talking about. I still don't get why they don't put out a 43xx or 48xx level pre. When you see how the Onkyo's and Integra's sell like crazy I think they are missing the boat.

 

[indulger]

Hope they fix the the network card issues plaguing last years models. I'm on my 2nd 4310CI keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[jostenmeat]

Denon just announced its 2010 lineup, which includes a crap-ton of new A/V receivers.

According to this dictionary, a crap-ton is equivalent to 4 shitt loads, for those who didn't know.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Did they mention anything about updating the 4810, 5308, & AVP-A1HD to HDMI1.4 (3D) via firmware or hardware?

 

[Knucklehead90]

According to this dictionary, a crap-ton is equivalent to 4 shitt loads, for those who didn't know.

Filed: one more (nearly) useless fact!

 

[Nomo]

I still haven't fallen in love with the Denon look; but should I be looking to upgrade to a 3D capable receiver in the near future this would seem to be a good path to go to.

 

[bellevegasj]

Yay, I've been waiting for these. \0/

 

[admin]

Denon Turns 100 - New Receivers, Blu-ray, Headphones

Denon turns 100 and releases new receivers, Blu-ray players, and headphones. The headphones will be noise-canceling, the Blu-ray players universal, and the receivers feature packed. Are we excited about these new Denon products? Heck yeah! What are we most excited about? Um.. HDMI 1.4a... No, Netflix streaming... No, universal playback on all new Blu-rays... No, Pandora streaming on receivers... No, native iPod/iPhone support... No,....

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[BoredSysAdmin]

More pics and info, including updated OSD

http://www.chipchick.com/2010/04/denon-2010.html

 

[Tom Andry]

Did they mention anything about updating the 4810, 5308, & AVP-A1HD to HDMI1.4 (3D) via firmware or hardware?

According to what they said at the press event, the 5308 is going to stay the same for the time being but that they would probably release a new version (or some sort of update) next year. I got the impression more info would be available around CEDIA. No mention of mid-level pre/pros for those interested but I'm still going through all the info. My understanding that 1.4 is not going to be offered by Denon at all - they are going to 1.4a. That's a hardware upgrade that I don't think we'll be seeing for current models.

 

[AVRat]

4311CI supports 9.2 channels

http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/631091.html

 

[indulger]

That just chaps my a**. I so wanted the 4810CI due to the 9 channels but it was way out of my price league. So I settled on the 4310CI. Then they present the 4311CI. I think now, that the 4311CI would be the perfect receiver in it's price range.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

That just chaps my a**. I so wanted the 4810CI due to the 9 channels but it was way out of my price league. So I settled on the 4310CI. Then they present the 4311CI. I think now, that the 4311CI would be the perfect receiver in it's price range.

Yeah, this game makes you feel like upgrading every other year.

My 5308 has 6 HDMI-1.3a Inputs, but the newer 4311 has 7 HDMI-1.4a Inputs?

What about those people who paid $7,500 for the AVP-A1HDCI that also has only 6 HDMI-1.3a Inputs?

 

[bellevegasj]

Yeah, this game makes you feel like upgrading every other year.

My 5308 has 6 HDMI-1.3a Inputs, but the newer 4311 has 7 HDMI-1.4a Inputs?

What about those people who paid $7,500 for the AVP-A1HDCI that also has only 6 HDMI-1.3a Inputs?

This reminds me of my experience last weekend. A friend just got a mount for his Samsung 46" lcd. I don't have a mount for my tv yet, so he was showing me how easy it was to hang. He's had this tv for a little over a year now and it's still on torch mode. As I approached the tv, it started giving me a headache due to the brightness. He explained to me that no tv on the market has a better picture and it's so sharp that the movement seems awkward. Very awkward in fact... because he still has motion plus turned on. I tried to explain that he could turn that off; of course he didn't. I didn't even start to mention the whole torch mode issue. Moral of the story: ignorance is bliss. Less is more. The less you know, the better off you are. That being said, I can't wait to get my hands on one of these new Denon receivers.

 

[rnatalli]

It looks like Denon may have started skimping on their amps a bit. For example, the 590 has a power consumption of around 500 watts whereas the 591 is only 360 watts. Still nice units overall for the price.

 

[Superfly]

That just chaps my a**. I so wanted the 4810CI due to the 9 channels but it was way out of my price league. So I settled on the 4310CI. Then they present the 4311CI. I think now, that the 4311CI would be the perfect receiver in it's price range.

Are they going to reduce the power supply in the 4311? the 4810 has less power than the 4310 from the reviews I read.

 

[gobrigavitch]

The 4311 seems to have almost everything a hometheater would need. It's like getting a DVDO Duo for free in your AVR. If only it had the CMS of the Duo then it would be perfect.

I'm hoping one of the AVR manufacturers will incorporate the new HQV Vida chip with CMS, but it doesn't look like it will be Denon

 

[Seth=L]

It looks like Denon may have started skimping on their amps a bit. For example, the 590 has a power consumption of around 500 watts whereas the 591 is only 360 watts. Still nice units overall for the price.

If there's anything you know you can't trust it's the power consumption ratings. The AVR-590 had a spec'd power consumption of 4.3 amps, the AVR-591 states 360 watts. What I do know as that manufacturers are fickle about any type of rating. If they were consistent we could almost figure them out without benchtests (not really, but you know what I mean). One year they might be taking the "we've got the most robust receiver in the market for the money right now, I mean look at the power consumption" marketing scheme. Harman Kardon has done this for years. They throw around crazy high power consumption numbers for peak (split second before the thing blows to smithereens peak) while having extremely low wattage output per channel figures. The following year they take the "we're going to go green" marketing scheme. How could it be that the receiver has a lower power consumption rating and now can output 120 watts per channel? OMG IT CAN'T! By looking at the spec sheets it appears the power output rating for full bandwidth is the same as it was for the AVR-590. It could be as simple as the guy who previously designated what ratings were done how was laid off and the new guy had different ideas on how things should be rated (propably laid off the conservative guy in favor of the more trendy liberal guy). At this point it's all pure speculation.

The 4.3 amps might be a peak rating, and the 360 watts might be a nominal rating without clipping. They still weigh the same, and as far as I know they haven't switched OEM for their lower end models. When they come out look under the hood and see if anything is different on the amp section.

Another forum member pointed out that Sherwood handles or has been handling Denon's lower end receiver manufacturing for some time. From looking under the hood I can't say that I'm very surprised. There are certainly similarities among the Denon, Sherwood, and Pioneer receivers. (it's quite obvious the last few lower end AVRs from Pioneer are almost entirely Sherwood design). It's been long known that Sherwood manufactures receivers for countless other companies and has done so for a long time keeping them in business. Sherwood hasn't changed much in terms of topology for their mainstream designs, I doubt there is any difference between the amp section in the AVR-590 and AVR-591.

 

[3db]

It looks like Denon may have started skimping on their amps a bit. For example, the 590 has a power consumption of around 500 watts whereas the 591 is only 360 watts. Still nice units overall for the price.

I guess some bench testing is going to be needed here. But it wouldn't surprise me if Denon went this route as well. They''ll be following suit like that of Yamaha, more bells and whistles, less robust amp and power supplies. If this is the case, I'll be really disappointed in Denon as I am with Yamaha's current offerings.