Denon DVD-2930CI

[B5I8]

Any news on when Denon is planning on releasing this new DVD player?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-W0iPiMtKT5c/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=54400&I=033DV2930C

It looks like quite a player for the money. I like that it'll play just about every format you can throw at it.

 

[j_garcia]

I heard the 2930 would be shipping in the next few weeks and the 3930 would be out in a few months. Second hand info though, so I don't know how accurate that is.

 

[sokrman14]

Are both of these going to be upconverting units, or will one of them be HDDVD or BLURAY? I have been able to find any info about these units on Denons website.

 

[j_garcia]

Both will be upconverting to 1080p, and as far as I know neither will do BD or HD-DVD. You can see the info for the 2930 on the crutchfield link above.

 

[JonBaker99]

Neither one are slated for Blue Ray or HD-DVD. Should see the 2930 within the next 4 weeks. 3930 probably within 90 days.

 

[ht_addict]

Why would anyone get a standard dvd player off this value when you can pickup a Toshiba HD-DVD, especially if your using it for HT.

 

[j_garcia]

Well, at least these players ouput 1080p I have yet to see a glowing review of the Tosh player.

 

[supervij]

Add to that the fact that a well-upconverted DVD looks pretty good. I was at Future Shop today, taking a look at both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players. They were each (at opposite ends of the store) hooked up to two different 42-inch 720p screens, and coincidentally, there were 42-inch 720p screens next to each of them showing some upconverted DVDs. And I really saw no difference in picture quality between the three. These first-gen machines are, in my opinion, nothing special. I'd still buy a nice upconverter than a hi-def player right now. The 2930 looks pretty sweet. Pricey as all hell, but suh-weet! If I could afford it, that bad boy'd be in my living room right now. Looking forward to seeing some reviews on it.

cheers,
supervij

 

[ht_addict]

Well, at least these players ouput 1080p I have yet to see a glowing review of the Tosh player.

1080i/1080p if you can notice a difference you one off the few. Not to mention there's not too many, maybe a fraction of .00001% of HDTV's can handle the native res.

 

[ht_addict]

Add to that the fact that a well-upconverted DVD looks pretty good. I was at Future Shop today, taking a look at both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players. They were each (at opposite ends of the store) hooked up to two different 42-inch 720p screens, and coincidentally, there were 42-inch 720p screens next to each of them showing some upconverted DVDs. And I really saw no difference in picture quality between the three. These first-gen machines are, in my opinion, nothing special. I'd still buy a nice upconverter than a hi-def player right now. The 2930 looks pretty sweet. Pricey as all hell, but suh-weet! If I could afford it, that bad boy'd be in my living room right now. Looking forward to seeing some reviews on it.

cheers,
supervij

Previously owned a Denon 3910 and trust me when I say a well-upconverted DVD still doesn' look as good as a HD-DVD. I've demoed Van Helsing in SD mode, Upconverted on the 3910, Upconverted on a Toshiba A1 and also the HD version. Again I can say nothing could beat the HD version for PQ.

 

[supervij]

ht, I wish I could say that I saw some difference, but I really didn't. I even asked the salesguy what other people have said, and he replied that everyone's been saying the same thing I did -- no difference.

Having said that, I will concede that none of the TVs in the store had been properly calibrated. If that had been the case, maybe I and others would have noticed at least some difference.

I'm still not prepared to purchase either of these new technologies. Just not ready for prime-time, as it were.

Anyway, to drag this thread back on-topic, I'm always excited to read about new Denon DVD players and receivers. The specs on this puppy are darn impressive. I'd love to see it in action, and to hear hi-res on it. Then again, even audioholics conceded that hi-res sounded the same on both the Oppo and the Denon 5910, so maybe it's moot. Still, she sure do look pretty!

cheers,
supervij

 

[ht_addict]

ht, I wish I could say that I saw some difference, but I really didn't. I even asked the salesguy what other people have said, and he replied that everyone's been saying the same thing I did -- no difference.

Having said that, I will concede that none of the TVs in the store had been properly calibrated. If that had been the case, maybe I and others would have noticed at least some difference.

I'm still not prepared to purchase either of these new technologies. Just not ready for prime-time, as it were.

Where the units hooked upto Samsung LCD's? I know at my local FS then happen too have them hooked to same LCD's(Samsung 4051D). With the HD-DVD they were playing the demo disk, same thing with the BR. Not really the best demo source. Not to mention both had them hooked via component and the BR was in 720p mode. Though even when I changed the BR to 1080i the PQ still look real grainy and soft. The HD-DVD with 1080p encoded disc(Van Helsing, Bourne Supremacy, Chronicles of Riddick, etc) look spectacular(more detail, richer color pallette)

Anyway, to drag this thread back on-topic, I'm always excited to read about new Denon DVD players and receivers. The specs on this puppy are darn impressive. I'd love to see it in action, and to hear hi-res on it. Then again, even audioholics conceded that hi-res sounded the same on both the Oppo and the Denon 5910, so maybe it's moot. Still, she sure do look pretty!

cheers,
supervij

Sure the specs look impressive, but like I said why pay that type off money for upconversion when true 1080i and soon 1080p is available. Just my 2cents.

 

[MACCA350]

Sure the specs look impressive, but like I said why pay that type off money for upconversion when true 1080i and soon 1080p is available. Just my 2cents.

Because People have heaps of SD DVD's and with the HQV chip in these Denon's their upconversion would trounce the upconversion of those BD-DVD and HD-DVD players.

Remember these HQV chips are born from the Teranex System preciously costing a minimum of $60,000 and used for Hi-Def broadcasting and post-production.

cheers

 

[supervij]

I don't rememer the brand of the TVs, but they were hooked up via HDMI, and both players set to the native res of the TV, which was 720p. I didn't bother switching to 1080i; I couldn't imagine it would improve the pq doing so. I asked the salesguy to take out the demo disc (took forever on the HD-DVD player to do so), and to put in an actual hi-def movie disc. The Blu-Ray was playing House of Flying Daggers, and it really did look exactly like an upconverted DVD. The HD-DVD was playing . . . Chronicles of Riddick? Something. Darnit, I can't remember which movie it was. Anyway, same story.

I remember seeing the benchmark for the HD-DVD player. It was based on its upconversion of DVDs, which was only average at best, if I recall correctly. This current generation of hi-def players just don't do DVDs justice compared to the really good DVD players out there, as MACCA said. But that may change soon with the next generation of hi-def players.

Now if Denon were to make a hi-def player . . . oooh, that'd be shiny!

cheers,
supervij