Denon Avr-s910w video dropping out....HELP!!!!!

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KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Well I have to purchase a new receiver or the same one from them At either the same price or more. What would you guys suggest for a receiver?
I am a little confused by what this means.
Are you saying you have to buy either another refurb AVR-S910w or any new AVR that costs as much or more?
Or can you buy any receiver of equal or greater cost?
 
M Code

M Code

Audioholic General
Ironic...
So many users ignore the multiple posts about the HDMI/HDCP issues for certain brands..
Denon, Marantz, Onkyo do their own in-house certifications..
The only primary AVR brand that puts their platforms through the expensive indepth outside HDMI/HDCP certification process with the HDMI labs is Yamaha, it is expensive ($35K) and takes 5 weeks which delays initial shipments to the market..
But is the only way to assure the widest compatibility between HDMI products, especially in light of changing standards. Also note that the interoperability part of the certification process between various brands/components is crucial...

Just my $0.02... ;)
 
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Brandon Charlsen

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i have to buy a different referb receiver. either the same one or a different one at the same price or greater value.
 
B

Brandon Charlsen

Audioholic Intern
Ironic...
So many users ignore the multiple posts about the HDMI/HDCP issues for certain brands..
Denon, Marantz, Onkyo do their own in-house certifications..
The only primary AVR brand that puts their platforms through the expensive indepth outside HDMI/HDCP certification process with the HDMI labs is Yamaha, it is expensive ($35K) and takes 5 weeks which delays initial shipments to the market..
But is the only way to assure the widest compatibility between HDMI products, especially in light of changing standards. Also note that the interoperability part of the certification process between various brands/components is crucial...

Just my $0.02... ;)



so what youre saying is that i should go a head and buy a yamaha??
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
so what youre saying is that i should go a head and buy a yamaha??
And that is what I was going to suggest before M Code posted, but his post definitely clinches it.
I have bought 7 Marantz or Denon AVR's over the past 6 years. Mostly refurbs from A4L.
Only one gave me trouble and that was a Marantz NR-1605. Fortunately it failed before my 1 year refurb warranty by Marantz expired! I took it to the authorized repair center (35 minutes drive for me) and because the HDMI boards were on back order (a good indicator, though not conclusive, that these parts are failing prematurely so inventory is depleted) they sent me another refurb within 2 weeks. So overall, it is hard for me to complain, but I am a data point for Marantz/Denon HDMI failure.
I should of went with my gut and got a Yamaha.
Here you say you should have gone with your gut and bought Yamaha. I believe such feelings should be acknowledged (as long as it is not Bose or AudioQuest)! Yamaha is a well respected name, and their reliability is known to be very good (although I don't believe their are public statistics available). Many of us lean Audyssey, but I believe the latest version of YPAO is pretty good. The main thing is that you will have much more confidence in the Yamaha and if you replaced the Denon and had another failure (say after several months where A4L is not willing to let you return - they are a class act, but there are limits to what you can expect), it would suck bad!
M Code's information really makes it a no-brainer, IMHO!
 
M Code

M Code

Audioholic General
so what youre saying is that i should go a head and buy a yamaha??
Just stating the facts.. :)
U need to buy the brand/product with the features/performance that matches your budget...
And for the mentioned AVRs brands, Yamaha is the only one which is certified by the HDMI Labs. The others try and to do this in-house. Today the HDMI/HDCP standards are under constant revision and each brand is struggling to keep up and deliver bug-free software compatible with other HDMI components.. The other brands will eventually match Yamaha but it takes time at least a generation.

Just my $0.02... ;)
 
Bucknekked

Bucknekked

Audioholic Samurai
I have been concerned for a couple of years now, that we may enter a time when the best option is a DIY pre/pro based on an HTPC as a foundation. This is a rising endeavor in the DIY world due to what seems to be deteriorating quality control of marketed units.
TLS Guy:
I have gone with a HTPC as the guts of what I use everyday for quite some time. I applaud your train of thought. Its what I have been doing. Economics teaches us there's no free lunch, however. Switching from hardware issues in an AVR just means introducing yourself to the software/microcode issues of a HTPC.
I'm willing to do that because I've been a computer guy all my life. But others who are accustomed to the plug it in, turn it on and leave it style of gear that you get with a pure hardware setup like an AVR may not be so rosey about it.

You probably know all that and more when you put up your post. It would be a big hit indeed if Denon/Marantz developed a common hardware ailment they simply passed to the consumer. That would suck. It would make recommending good gear even more perilous than it is.
 

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