Denon AVR-2802

[ht_enthu]

Hi,

I have the Denon AVR-2802 receiver. The vocals in movies are not much clear when i choose the DTS mode. Any suggestions on how can I correct this?

Thanks,

 

[Jack Hammer]

Hi,

I have the Denon AVR-2802 receiver. The vocals in movies are not much clear when i choose the DTS mode. Any suggestions on how can I correct this?

Thanks,

Make sure your speakers are level matched. Do you know if the problem is with the reciever or your dvd player? Also, some movies (even DTS) are just poorly mixed. Are your front speakers matched?

My 2805 had a similar problem. I had to reset the micro-computer to fix it. Doing this is explained in the manual. If you try this, it will erase all your settings and return the unit to all factory default presets.

 

[mnnc]

Hi,

I have the Denon AVR-2802 receiver. The vocals in movies are not much clear when i choose the DTS mode. Any suggestions on how can I correct this?

Thanks,

As jhammer mentioned, some dts tracks are not all they are supposed to be. Try going to dvd menu and selecting the dolby digital 5.1 soundtrack and see if there is a difference. I agree...make sure all channels are set level. This will have to be done with a spl meter and test tone from recv'r or test/setup disc. Not familiar w/ your 2802 but if it has a test tone your in business quickly with a spl meter. Set all channels to flat/0. Run test tone and turn volume up on recv't until it reads about 75-80 db consistently on spl meter at approximate listening position facing the front. The tone will switch from spkr to spkr and you should adjust all channels/spkrs via the channel gain on recv'r so that the db output is same or within 1db. You may have to add gain or decrease gain to level things out. Then all will be equal. If you continue to have this problem then something else is wrong. Are spkr's same/close quality? Is center too high or too low relative to mains? Do you accidentally have night mode or cinema compression setting on? This will tone down dialogue for late listening say for instance you don't want to disturb others, wake up grandma, etc. These things must be considered. Good luck.

 

[tbewick]

As jhammer mentioned, some dts tracks are not all they are supposed to be. Try going to dvd menu and selecting the dolby digital 5.1 soundtrack and see if there is a difference. I agree...make sure all channels are set level. This will have to be done with a spl meter and test tone from recv'r or test/setup disc. Not familiar w/ your 2802 but if it has a test tone your in business quickly with a spl meter. Set all channels to flat/0. Run test tone and turn volume up on recv't until it reads about 75-80 db consistently on spl meter at approximate listening position facing the front. The tone will switch from spkr to spkr and you should adjust all channels/spkrs via the channel gain on recv'r so that the db output is same or within 1db. You may have to add gain or decrease gain to level things out. Then all will be equal. If you continue to have this problem then something else is wrong. Are spkr's same/close quality? Is center too high or too low relative to mains? Do you accidentally have night mode or cinema compression setting on? This will tone down dialogue for late listening say for instance you don't want to disturb others, wake up grandma, etc. These things must be considered. Good luck.

Using Dolby Digital Dynamic Range Control (DRC) will help to improve dialogue intelligibility because quieter passages of dialogue will be boosted in volume. DTS tracks do not have DRC and unless you are listening at full-scale reference level, you could have dialogue intelligibility problems. In typical listening set ups, playing back films at reference level is very demanding of the speakers and amplifier. It is also very loud because of the relatively confined acoustics of the home.

Complaints of poor dialogue intelligibility are common and reviewers of high quality speaker systems sometimes comment on the improved dialogue clarity. This is probably because better speakers usually have a greater possible dynamic range and can resolve quieter sounds. This is why DRC exists, as it allows for clear dialogue at lower volumes on lower quality equipment.

 

[ht_enthu]

As jhammer mentioned, some dts tracks are not all they are supposed to be. Try going to dvd menu and selecting the dolby digital 5.1 soundtrack and see if there is a difference. I agree...make sure all channels are set level. This will have to be done with a spl meter and test tone from recv'r or test/setup disc. Not familiar w/ your 2802 but if it has a test tone your in business quickly with a spl meter. Set all channels to flat/0. Run test tone and turn volume up on recv't until it reads about 75-80 db consistently on spl meter at approximate listening position facing the front. The tone will switch from spkr to spkr and you should adjust all channels/spkrs via the channel gain on recv'r so that the db output is same or within 1db. You may have to add gain or decrease gain to level things out. Then all will be equal. If you continue to have this problem then something else is wrong. Are spkr's same/close quality? Is center too high or too low relative to mains? Do you accidentally have night mode or cinema compression setting on? This will tone down dialogue for late listening say for instance you don't want to disturb others, wake up grandma, etc. These things must be considered. Good luck.

Thanks for your response.. ok. My rec'vr has the test tone option. I'm gonna try to adjust the volume of channels. How about setting the Center channnel's volume up above the rest? will it make any difference?

Thanks again.

 

[Rooz]

Complaints of poor dialogue intelligibility are common and reviewers of high quality speaker systems sometimes comment on the improved dialogue clarity..

this is 100% true. the vocals, (speech), coming out of my recently upgraded centre channel speaker are superb compared to my old CC which was also of a pretty good quality.

in fact when i was testing centre speakers with my own DVD selction, 75% of the scenes i selected to test this were vocal scenes where i know in the past i was frustrated with the clarity and audibility of the people speaking.

in the past i tried turning the CC up a few notches and yes, the vocal sounded better but it got too overpowering and harsh with action sequences; so it was never a great solution.

 

[Nick250]

Thanks for your response.. ok. My rec'vr has the test tone option. I'm gonna try to adjust the volume of channels. How about setting the Center channnel's volume up above the rest? will it make any difference?

Thanks again.

I would absolutely try turning the center channel up. Heck, that is the very first thing I would try. Also, it is my understanding that test tones are unreliable and you really need a meter and test disc to properly set levels. Personally I have set my all my levels manually (trial and error method) and am satisfied with the results. Please note that the levels for each speaker may be different do to room acoustecs.

 

[mnnc]

Thanks for your response.. ok. My rec'vr has the test tone option. I'm gonna try to adjust the volume of channels. How about setting the Center channnel's volume up above the rest? will it make any difference?

Thanks again.

You need a spl meter from the shack. This is the only way to properly level all channels/channels being utilized. Test tone on recvr should be fine for balancing ch output. Get a meter...set all channels to flat/0...initialize test tone...this tone may be at a set/predetermined level and should be about 75db if not turn volume up until it reads 75-80db on meter...ideally put meter on tripod and point towards main sounstage/front and as close to the 'sweet spot' as possible/where your ears would be...with tone running adjust each channel so they read the same on spl meter. Set meter to 70 or 80db/c weighted/slow....test tone is probably about 75db tone so watch meter as tone goes from spkr to spkr. Tone may rotate from spkr to spkr or you may have to manually switch. Not sure with your unit. Anyways, increase or decrease channel levels via recvr to balance all channels. Your recvr now has balanced channels. Don't forget to set distance of spkrs. Measure and enter to nearest foot. If you still have low dialogue levels you may want to reposition cc. Is it too low...too high, etc. Also try the DD 5.1 via disc menu as I have found sounds better on occasion rather than dts. Some dts tracks don't sound great and others do. It's strange I know but that is the way it is. Good luck.