I agree - the 3805 will still be a viable receiver for some time to come and that is a decent price for it, as long as it is brand new. You may even find it for less online. If you do not need HDMI switching, don't use the auto calibration option, or don't have XM radio, there isn't a whole lot of difference between the two. That is exactly the case for me, so I do not feel the need to upgrade my 3805 for some time to come. It truly is a great receiver and in fact is the best selling receiver in Denon's history.