Deftech DN15 vs REL HT 1510

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ssv1899

Audiophyte
I'm confused between a Deftech DN15 and a REL HT1510 for my home theatre. The REL has more power (1000W RMS) in a sealed enclosure, whereas the DN15 has lower power (500W RMS) but a larger enclosure with two 15-inch passive radiators. Here in India, the REL is $500 USD more expensive. Given REL's reputation, it seems like the safer option, but is it worth paying the extra money?
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I'm confused between a Deftech DN15 and a REL HT1510 for my home theatre. The REL has more power (1000W RMS) in a sealed enclosure, whereas the DN15 has lower power (500W RMS) but a larger enclosure with two 15-inch passive radiators. Here in India, the REL is $500 USD more expensive. Given REL's reputation, it seems like the safer option, but is it worth paying the extra money?
Absolutely it is.
 
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TankTop5

Audioholic Samurai
Not sure what the availability is in India, but the SVS SB3000 beats the REL in every metric significantly.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I'm confused between a Deftech DN15 and a REL HT1510 for my home theatre. The REL has more power (1000W RMS) in a sealed enclosure, whereas the DN15 has lower power (500W RMS) but a larger enclosure with two 15-inch passive radiators. Here in India, the REL is $500 USD more expensive. Given REL's reputation, it seems like the safer option, but is it worth paying the extra money?
In general, with all other things being equal, a larger cabinet usually means more bass output.

Where you live, what's the customer support like with both of them? If the built-in subwoofer amplifier fails, which can happen with any powered sub regardless of price (even $10K subs), which company would be more likely to take care of you? You can call both companies and see what they say.

Another option to consider is to get a passive/externally-powered subwoofer so that you can easily hook up almost any amplifier to the subwoofer, just like how you can hook up your passive speakers with any amplifier.

When I started this hobby as a teenager, my first subwoofer was a passive subwoofer which came with an external 80 Watt subwoofer amp. This subwoofer and external sub-amp still work after 33 years. :D
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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Dn15 has super clean bass. It won't have as much punch as the REL in midbass, but it really keeps its cool, and it will have a bit more deep bass. I really liked the DN15. The REL 1510 was pretty good too.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Dn15 has super clean bass. It won't have as much punch as the REL in midbass…
Why is that? I figured with the bigger cabinet, the DN15 would have more overall bass output AND also have more midbass 80-250 Hz output.
 
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oniiz86

Audioholic Intern
Why is that? I figured with the bigger cabinet, the DN15 would have more overall bass output AND also have more midbass 80-250 Hz output.
Perhaps it could be the DN15's driver that is less sensitive & DSP limiters at play along with the paltry 500W RMS amp despite the larger cabinet enclosure.
 
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William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Why is that? I figured with the bigger cabinet, the DN15 would have more overall bass output AND also have more midbass 80-250 Hz output.
I would guess because the DT had a passive radiator, basically acting like it’s ported. The REL is sealed as I think all their subs are.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I would guess because the DT had a passive radiator, basically acting like it’s ported. The REL is sealed as I think all their subs are.
BMRs are similar but not identical to ported alignments. Ported enclosures roll of 24 db. per octave below F3, but ABRs roll off at 36 db. That is a major significant difference. One result of this is to encourage extended bass alignments, which are not as tight.

In general commercial designs go for extended alignments which encourages the ad men, and probably does boost sales, but in my view that is the wrong bargain.

The extended alignments are more resonant and have worse transient response. So, I stay away from extended bass alignments in my designs and they are the better for it.

The other myth is that sealed enclosures have a tighter response, as they require a higher Qts driver. And a sealed box with a spring (the driver) is still a resonant system. Not only that, sealed boxes have a nasty habit of having a peak before roll off, which can give them an unnatural false bass.

The only way I know of to get a truly non resonant bass is with an open baffle arrangement, which brings a whole host of problems. The other, which is what I favor, and that is an aperiodically damped transmission line. Those are the only alignments I know that will give a truly realistic powerful uncolored bass. Once you have experienced that, there is no other way to go. Horns are also in the running, but require low Qts drivers, and unless driver and enclosure is massive they will not deliver true sub range, as we have come to know it. But they certainly have commercial applications for large venues.
 
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