Definitive Technology Speakers?

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kabir0210

Audiophyte
Overall, How would you rate Definitive Technology Speakers for a 90% HT enviornment? I barely listen to music on my system, but I'm looking at:

7004 Supertowers in the Front L,R
CLR 2500 Center
BPX Rears (L,R)

For the money, what do you think about this brand of speakers? Also, quality wise, could I do better in this price range?
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
kabir0210 said:
Overall, How would you rate Definitive Technology Speakers for a 90% HT enviornment? I barely listen to music on my system, but I'm looking at:

7004 Supertowers in the Front L,R
CLR 2500 Center
BPX Rears (L,R)

For the money, what do you think about this brand of speakers? Also, quality wise, could I do better in this price range?
I've demo'd Def Tech's in three separate high end shops. In EVERY case, I've hated them. I'm not sold on the bass, and I'm of the opinion the high's are piercing. Fatiguing may be a better term.

Strangely enough, I LOVED the Supercube sub for music.

IMO, you can do so much better in that price range. What is your maximum budget? Do you have room for a sub?
 
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twoksl2

Audioholic Intern
we own deftec's, we were doing to get the full setup, almost the same system that you were thinking about. thought that they sounded pretty good, but ended up going with vienna acoustics for the theater.
for our living room we have a pair of 450's on stands and they sound really good when placed right. for the theater, we have a supercube reference. that is the best sounding, and most capable subwoofer that i have ever herd. very good sounding and holy crap can that thing hit low and hard.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
I think Def-Tech is like any other speaker. Many reviews I hear call them much more theater focussed. I personally like mine which I've had for 2 years+ now. They work great, they sound great, and they provide much more bang for the buck than other companies.

One of their main points is that you aren't paying a lot extra for a custom wooden finish to the cabinet, so your money is going for the speaker and the quality of that speaker.

Many reviews say that they sound very good, many more say that they sound great for home theater. Most of all, I've heard them referred to by some as THE speaker to use for home theater and very little besting them for thousands of dollars more in price.

Me? Good price, good sound, great quality, no complaints.
 
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deftech

Junior Audioholic
As I'm sure you can see from my user name I'm a def tech fan. For some reason a vocal minority HATE them. That's fine. I have had my 7 piece set up for over 5 years in 4 different homes and like them alot. They can be trickey to set up but once you do the rewards are many. I actually like mine for music as well as ht. My mains ar bp 2002 tl's (much like the new 7002's) The bottom line; if they sound good to you, buy 'em. Listen to lots of systems in your price range and get the ones that YOU like.
 
MacManNM

MacManNM

Banned
I'd have to agree with Buck. I've listened to their newer stuff at a bunch of places, I don't really care for them. I think you can get way better quality for that kind of money. You can get a pair of Klipsch RF7s for around the same price, and they will blow you away.
 
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MAX661

Audioholic
MacManNM said:
I'd have to agree with Buck. I've listened to their newer stuff at a bunch of places, I don't really care for them. I think you can get way better quality for that kind of money. You can get a pair of Klipsch RF7s for around the same price, and they will blow you away.

You cant really ask, you can only go listen for yourself. When I was shopping for my speakers I came across the Klipsch RF7's and didn't rally like them at all. But as you can see MacManNM really likes them.
 
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warpdrive

Full Audioholic
I listened to some of the older def tech speakers as well as some of their newer ones (towers, I can't remember the model), and I thought they were ok, but the NHT's in the same store blew them away in terms of clarity and freedom from coloration. So you can say I was not that impressed with them. Their Supercubes seemed fine in comparison, I think I liked them over the NHT subs.

So YMMV, but I wouldn't bother looking at DefTech unless there was a great deal on them.
 
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thxgoon

Junior Audioholic
MacManNM said:
I'd have to agree with Buck. I've listened to their newer stuff at a bunch of places, I don't really care for them. I think you can get way better quality for that kind of money. You can get a pair of Klipsch RF7s for around the same price, and they will blow you away.
**cringe...***

I'm the opposite. I like Klipsch for about 5 minutes before my ears begin to bleed. From a performance/cost/fun standpoint I don't think there's a speaker to match deftech. You'll find more acccurate, or more musical or blah blah... but nothing matches the overall fun factor of deftech. Movies on a properly set up system are a totally unique experience and one I'm sold on.
 
MacManNM

MacManNM

Banned
thxgoon said:
**cringe...***

I'm the opposite. I like Klipsch for about 5 minutes before my ears begin to bleed. From a performance/cost/fun standpoint I don't think there's a speaker to match deftech. You'll find more acccurate, or more musical or blah blah... but nothing matches the overall fun factor of deftech. Movies on a properly set up system are a totally unique experience and one I'm sold on.

I don't think you've ever listened to a pair of RF-7's. The cheap synergy junk they sellat BB is crap, but the reference systems sound darn good. Dif Tech used to be a pretty darn good speaker, back when they made the BP10 and 20's but I believe they have gone down hill. The 7004 towers are much brighter than any of the klipsch reference line. The 7004's also lack any type of clean midrange.
 
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MAX661

Audioholic
MacManNM said:
I don't think you've ever listened to a pair of RF-7's. The cheap synergy junk they sellat BB is crap, but the reference systems sound darn good. Dif Tech used to be a pretty darn good speaker, back when they made the BP10 and 20's but I believe they have gone down hill. The 7004 towers are much brighter than any of the klipsch reference line. The 7004's also lack any type of clean midrange.
I have listened to the RF-7's at a local audiotronic, I found them to be harsh sounding to say the least. Not that they were very bright sounding but I definitily dont think they sound as clean as the BP7000 series from Def Tech.
 
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GeorgeM

Audioholic
I have only favorable comments for the DefTech Mythos Ones, Three, Gems, et al, that surround a 42" Plasma and an SVS PB-2+ sub.

I certainly would not pass up the opportunity to audition the Mythos series; they sound good and look good!

-GeorgeM
 
MacManNM

MacManNM

Banned
MAX661 said:
I have listened to the RF-7's at a local audiotronic, I found them to be harsh sounding to say the least. Not that they were very bright sounding but I definitily dont think they sound as clean as the BP7000 series from Def Tech.
Wow, well you are entitled to your opioion, I listened to them side by side and thought the Dif's sounded harsh, totally lacked midrange clarity and had very boomy bass. Perhaps it was the material you used to demo them? Did you listen to them side by side in the same room? If they were not, I would assume that the room perhaps colored you impression of the FR-7's.
 
NGL_BrSH

NGL_BrSH

Junior Audioholic
Hahaha

OH MY...

SuperCube Trinity
2 active 14" drivers
4 passive 14" radiators
2000 watts...

That is all.. i need to go have some alone time after thinking about it...
muwahaha
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
kabir0210 said:
Overall, How would you rate Definitive Technology Speakers for a 90% HT enviornment? I barely listen to music on my system, but I'm looking at:

7004 Supertowers in the Front L,R
CLR 2500 Center
BPX Rears (L,R)

For the money, what do you think about this brand of speakers? Also, quality wise, could I do better in this price range?
Hello kabir0210,

This is a post I wrote in another forum, telling of my most recent (11/02/05)Definitive experience. Hope this helps. I know these aren't the speakers your looking at.



While I was out purchasing my television today. I was able to audition some equipment.

First was Definitive Technology's BiPolar SuperTowers BP7000SC teamed with BP2X surrounds, and a Supercube Reference. I don't know why they had the Reference hooked up with the 7000's. Seems to me people either love Definitives, or hate them. They where demo'd watching Saving Private Ryan (opening beach scene) using the new Denon 4806 receiver.

I was surprised that it wasn't to much bass. It wasn't boomy in any way. I didn't feel it either, no rumbling. The bass was tight. I would have figured that the subs in the Supertowers along with the Reference together I would have been bass'd out of the room. Maybe he didn't have them running hot. Maybe they don't produce enough bass. Maybe he had them dialed in just right. The bass sounded awesome.

I was really blown away by these speakers. I guess for $2499 each you should be. You could hear the prop under the boat turning. Clear, very bright speakers. Loud, but I guess that's just the volume I was listening at. But like I said a very bright, full the room with mid to high frequency crystal clear clarity.

Next I wanted to see if the law of diminishing returns was present by auditioning some Bowers & Wilkins 803D's ($4000 each), with DS8S surrounds, and a B&W ASW750 sub. I demo'd again watching Saving Private Ryan (opening beach scene) using Rotel seperates, RMB-1095 AMP, and RSP-1098 Preamp/Processor.

I had auditioned this set-up before, and posted about it in another thread ( Audition ). I was blown away the last time when I heard these. This time I still liked them very much, but wasn't blown away like the last time. I don't know if it was the room acoustics, or just listening to some other high end speakers, back to back. The last time I only listened to Paradigm Studio 20's before auditioning the B&W's. Maybe it was the movie ( Hero, Master and Commander last time ) Whatever it was, I can say that spending the extra money on the B&W's wouldn't be worth it to me, if I was making a decision today. They seems flat compared to the Definitive's. I think maybe I heard more mid-range compared to the Definitives is why. They where deeper and not as crisp sounding. I really enjoyed the surround sound affect coming from the B&W's.

Next time I go in, I want him to demo the speakers, and switch receivers to see if I can hear a difference. I should have done that today, sorry.

The room was 20x18 with 9' ceilings.
 
Khellandros66

Khellandros66

Banned
I love my effing Definitive Speakers!!

I was just helping my dad's friend with the Mythos speakers he bought.

The system is:
Sonvy Vega 61in SXRD
Sony DVD VHS Combo
Sony Receiver (can't remeber which)

The Definitive system is:

Mythos
Seven
Six
Gems
Supercube II

The room is 12x17x9 and this system filled it perfectly I was is aw of how powerful these speakers are.. (never demoed Mythos Series berfore)

~Bob
 
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Def Tech Guy

Audiophyte
Overall, How would you rate Definitive Technology Speakers for a 90% HT enviornment? I barely listen to music on my system, but I'm looking at:

7004 Supertowers in the Front L,R
CLR 2500 Center
BPX Rears (L,R)

For the money, what do you think about this brand of speakers? Also, quality wise, could I do better in this price range?
I have had a pair of the BP2000 towers since 1998 and love them for music. No problems of any kind. You have to break them in so they actually sound better when the get some hours on them. Like any speaker you need to properly position them for best results. These towers are large and most people would put them where they fit, mistake. You need to consider distance from the back wall, side walls and from each other. The added degree of dificulty is the level adjustments. Get it right and you will be amazed. Make sure you have enough power, mine was a Carver 380 watts per channel amp.

I now have converted to theater by adding a matching CLR for the center, a pair of BPVX for the back and 2 yes 2 Supercube Reference subs with 1800 watts each. I now have the Denon 4806 @ 140 watts x7. Have the 2 back channels used to bi-amp the towers. Not enough power overall as I can turn it up full volumn in my 23'x24' room with only 8' ceilings and it is crystal clear for both movies and music. I will probably hook the Carver back up for the towers to get the extra kick.

Needless to say I love my DefTechs and so do the people that hear them. I have had many speakers and have heard many more. For what I spent on this system it was a bargin. That being said I am not as impressed with some of the "entry" models. I have yet to hear a plastic miniture speaker that can fill a room and sound real. Like most brands if you stick with the flagship models you won't go wrong.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Since the original post was almost 2 years ago, I am certain the guy has picked out his speakers by now...

I have had a pair of the BP2000 towers since 1998 and love them for music. No problems of any kind. You have to break them in so they actually sound better when the get some hours on them. Like any speaker you need to properly position them for best results. These towers are large and most people would put them where they fit, mistake. You need to consider distance from the back wall, side walls and from each other. The added degree of dificulty is the level adjustments. Get it right and you will be amazed. Make sure you have enough power, mine was a Carver 380 watts per channel amp.

I now have converted to theater by adding a matching CLR for the center, a pair of BPVX for the back and 2 yes 2 Supercube Reference subs with 1800 watts each. I now have the Denon 4806 @ 140 watts x7. Have the 2 back channels used to bi-amp the towers. Not enough power overall as I can turn it up full volumn in my 23'x24' room with only 8' ceilings and it is crystal clear for both movies and music. I will probably hook the Carver back up for the towers to get the extra kick.

Needless to say I love my DefTechs and so do the people that hear them. I have had many speakers and have heard many more. For what I spent on this system it was a bargin. That being said I am not as impressed with some of the "entry" models. I have yet to hear a plastic miniture speaker that can fill a room and sound real. Like most brands if you stick with the flagship models you won't go wrong.
 
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