definitive technology or klipsch

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myhdht

Audiophyte
Klipsch 4 sure

I have to go with Klipsch,as I own the Klipsch RC-64
RF-63
Great sound in ALL areas of music,movies,and gaming. I would love to have boughten their flagship sub but too much $$$ so I purchased 2 Polk audio PSW-1000 sub boxes. Go with Klipsch you will not be dissappointed.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
Klipsch speakers are a love/hate kinda deal,either people love them or they run from the room,this type of consumer response is not all BS,speakers with horn tweeters or mids are not for everybody,Altec,JBL & Klipsch all get the same mixed consumer reviews,it's a horn thing not a Klipsch thing,I personally like Klipsch speakers & own several models so take what i say with a grain of salt.

Before you buy ANY speaker with horns make sure you spend as much time listening to them as possible,and if you can listen to the same model at a few different stores.
 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
From another post.
I have been told that it is better to have full range speakers at all locations for a true 7.1 system. I have also been told that the new HD formats need full range speakers to sound it's best. This is where I need some help. The room I am building will be 25x33x10. I am thinking of using 7 Bp7000sc running them full range and two trinity subs for the LFE channel. My thoughts are with the bipole design I would get the direct sound and reflected sound for music and movies. I think it would be the best of both worlds. I would be thankful for any help I can get. Sorry so long Vince NC.
The first thing of note is that the new HD formats don’t offer anything different in the frequency spectrum than what’s currently available. The theory behind using full-range speakers all around is that it will hopefully help even out the bass response of the room. The one problem I’d have using the 7000s for surrounds is that they need to be placed out from the wall behind them for best sound. Granted the room your building is large (HUGE), the question you have to ask yourself, “Is this setup acceptable?” If you are also using the system for a good amount of m/c music then perhaps this is the way to go. For a more HT oriented setup, I’d be inclined to use the BPVX or /p for surrounds paired with a SuperCube Reference. There are many setup options which can be very daunting and frustrating when making these decisions. Have you had a chance to listen to them yet?
 
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Vince NC

Audioholic Intern
AVRat
I have not. The only dealer is about 100 miles away. I am going to a GTG with AV123 at the end of month. They are bringing the new Line Source (LS 9) speakers and the BMF sub to the meeting. I was planning on stopping in to definitive dealer and listen to the 7000sc the same day so I can compare the two.
The GTG and the dealer are within 10 miles of each other. How far do the 7000 need to be away from the wall. I was allowing 24" for wall clearance for any speaker I get. Do you think that is enough? These speakers are not what I'm stuck on, I just thought with the built in subs the would be less intrusive than setting up a sep. sub at each location. again thanks. VinceNC
 
zildjian

zildjian

Audioholic Chief
How far do the 7000 need to be away from the wall. I was allowing 24" for wall clearance for any speaker I get. Do you think that is enough?
Should be. I have mine about 1.5 or 2 feet from the wall, they are the BP2000's but that's the same speaker except for the sub's, mine are single 15" w/ a different amp, but the high frequency drivers are the same. You'll have to play around with placement to get them "just right", but giving them a little room to breath between the rear & the wall helps. I've had my Definitives in 4 different houses now (I have to move a lot regretfully), but I've always found between 1-2 feet to be a good distance.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
AVRat
I have not. The only dealer is about 100 miles away. I am going to a GTG with AV123 at the end of month. They are bringing the new Line Source (LS 9) speakers and the BMF sub to the meeting. I was planning on stopping in to definitive dealer and listen to the 7000sc the same day so I can compare the two.
The GTG and the dealer are within 10 miles of each other. How far do the 7000 need to be away from the wall. I was allowing 24" for wall clearance for any speaker I get. Do you think that is enough? These speakers are not what I'm stuck on, I just thought with the built in subs the would be less intrusive than setting up a sep. sub at each location. again thanks. VinceNC
From the conversations I have had with Sean at AV123. Those LS9's should sound sweet. At $4000 a pair I should hope so. There are a lot of speakers in that price range. Like the Salk Veracity HT3's.

http://www.salksound.com/ht3.html
 
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dem beats

Senior Audioholic
Vince,
If these 2 types are what you are sticking to go def tech. Honestly I didn't like them. I really didn't, I think they are verry musical however. I wouldn't put them on the same level as maggies, as those have won me over for vocal and acoustic music. A Mcintosh driving a pair of Big maggies is something that is just incredable......

That said when looking at def tech (I think they are much better than the klipsch set ups I have heard... I don't know if they were the ones you mentioned however.) As Highfi said though horns are something different. I heard a pro set up with horm speakers and it was the best in home/shop set up I have heard. The best advice I think is to go listen to the def tech's for a few hours. This will be the way to tell if you really will love them. I liked the sound they had, but something was not right, and maybe they didn't have enough breathing room.. maybe the listening position wasn't the best. Who knows but they didn't make me LOVE them so I moved on and I could have got the verry best they make for about 1,500(for the pair) from a friend who is getting rid of his whole set up. I just didn't fall in love. I don't have too much flexability with my room placement and I thought the def tech were a bit too needy for breathing room as I made the sales rep pull them away from the wall and turn off the sub and just play the towers through movies and music. It was stunning the differance that a few feet from the wall made... and that wasn't what I could do in my room.

I also like to have things other people do not. This played a big part in my choice when I got my ENERGY RC set up. No one I know has seen them and the sound blew me away.

I think it's been said but 2 hours drive is well worth it!
=)
 
solomr2

solomr2

Full Audioholic
Well, I have auditioned the DTs, but I don't think I auditioned that specific set of Klipsch.

I will tell you that if you like listening to movies with a lof sound effects and action, you will not beat the BP series by DT for the aural experience and the incredible punch they deliver. And frankly if movies were more my main listening requirement I swear I would have bought that set of DTs. I have never heard a better sounding home theater sound system. The sound just seems to come from all around you and it was sound you can feel in your soul.

However, music is more important to me. When I played various selections of music on the bipolar setup of DTs, they just didn't impress me as much. The soundstage was great, but the mids and highs were a little muddy and just didn't give me the sense of accuracy I was hoping for. When I heard them back to back with the Mythos setup, they just fell flat on the music selections I mostly like to listen to.

Conversely, the Mythos sounded pretty good with movie tracks and sound effects, but considerably less impressive than the BPs for movies. If I could have both; the Mythos for music and the BPs for movies, that would be the ultimate. However, my room, nor my wallet could afford that, so I went with Mythos 1s L/R, Mytho 3 C, Mythos Gems for surrounds, and a Supercube 2 sub. At some point in the future I may consider swapping the gems with my Mythos 1s, and getting the new Mythos STs for L/R duty.

I know I also auditioned a 5.1 setup of Klipsch speakers. I don't recall the exact model. From memory I seem to recall they were a bit bright and just couldn't reproduce good clean mids, but had decent lows.

Have you asked your local dealers if they lend you the speakers to try in-home. I think that is the only way you can really be sure. Take as much time as necessary to audition, and be sure to take your own material to listen to so you can compare the systems with material you are familiar with.
 
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