Consider getting the Yamaha Mx-2000 or the MX-1

[Yamaheart]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum. The reason I knew about this forum because i have been doing lots of research and reading about audio products, especially about Yamaha.

I currently own a pair of Yamaha Soavo 1 and Yamaha RX-V3800. I been doing lots reading off of this forum and interested of getting either the MX-1 or MX-2000. Would either amp will make an impact to my Soavo? If not i would just love to own either 1. Thank you so much..


Yamaheart

 

[Adam]

Welcome to the forum! Those are beautiful speakers. Which finish did you get? Also, how do you like them?

Regarding the amps, do you find that your 3800 sounds like it's lacking? I'm about to take a look at the amps, and I'll post again once I have an opinion on those.

Adam

 

[Adam]

I can't say if either of those amps would make a sonic difference, because I don't know how loud you listen to your speakers. They certainly might, though.

The MX-2000 is a beautiful amp. The wood sides are a very nice touch. Here is a nice internal photo of one if you haven't seen one already. It is Class A, though, so I'll bet that it'll run hot and probably suck some electricity.

The MX-1 is much more mundane looking, IMO. It's also Class A (I think), but is supposed to be more efficient.

I'd have to research it more to know which one that I'd prefer. Hands down, the MX-2000 wins in the looks department. I don't know which would be a better performer, though.

Adam

 

[Yamaheart]

thanks Adam

I can't say if either of those amps would make a sonic difference, because I don't know how loud you listen to your speakers. They certainly might, though.

The MX-2000 is a beautiful amp. The wood sides are a very nice touch. Here is a nice ww.electricalhobby.com/unit_pages/yamaha_mx2000.htm"]internal photo[/URL] of one if you haven't seen one already. It is Class A, though, so I'll bet that it'll run hot and probably suck some electricity.

The MX-1 is much more mundane looking, IMO. It's also Class A (I think), but is supposed to be more efficient.

I'd have to research it more to know which one that I'd prefer. Hands down, the MX-2000 wins in the looks department. I don't know which would be a better performer, though.

Adam

adam

I got the Brown Birch finish, they look so nice. I should have known and wait for the Piano finish Soavo. They sound real good in high and mid range, the 2 woofers sound decent for its size. I might need to get a subwoofer after all .For me, i dont listen to music that loud. The RX-v3800 does its job real nice, detail and clear. Since Im using my computer as a main audio source, listen to MP3s and watching DVD. I have not experience blue-ray or any hi-def yet, since i dont have a TV yet. So i figure it would be much better. I dont mind either the MX-2000 or the MX-1, they both a piece of art according to the experts, so i believe them. Thank you once again..

 

[davidtwotrees]

I thought Class A amps were a thing of the past?! Didn't Krell have famous class A mono blocks that could heat a house during winter they ran so hot? Wasn't class A a boutique amp style that went by the wayside?

 

[Adam]

I thought Class A amps were a thing of the past?! Didn't Krell have famous class A mono blocks that could heat a house during winter they ran so hot? Wasn't class A a boutique amp style that went by the wayside?

Well, the MX-2000 came out in the 80s (I think), and they don't make them anymore. The MX-1, at least the one that I was talking about, is still on Yamaha's website.

As far as I can tell, Class A has the lowest distortion, but you pay a price in heat because the components are always on.

 

[Midcow2]

I can't say if either of those amps would make a sonic difference, because I don't know how loud you listen to your speakers. They certainly might, though.

The MX-2000 is a beautiful amp. The wood sides are a very nice touch. Here is a nice internal photo of one if you haven't seen one already. It is Class A, though, so I'll bet that it'll run hot and probably suck some electricity.

The MX-1 is much more mundane looking, IMO. It's also Class A (I think), but is supposed to be more efficient.

I'd have to research it more to know which one that I'd prefer. Hands down, the MX-2000 wins in the looks department. I don't know which would be a better performer, though.

Adam

Nice information Adam, I would ask OP what the rest of his HT system includes especially the speakers and current pre-pro, amp, AVR. If OP is not exceeding his currently power, then changing out to either MX-1 or MX-2000 won't (IMHO) make that much difference. However, if OP has some nice 4 ohm power hungry tower speakers then he might see a significant improvement

 

[Adam]

Nice information Adam, I would ask OP what the rest of his HT system includes especially the speakers and current pre-pro, amp, AVR. If OP is not exceeding his currently power, then changing out to either MX-1 or MX-2000 won't (IMHO) make that much difference. However, if OP has some nice 4 ohm power hungry tower speakers then he might see a significant improvement

Thanks, MidCow2! Check the original post for the information that you are seeking (Yamaha Soavo 1 speakers and Yamaha RX-V3800).

Not poking fun at all. It is toooooo early to think straight (at least for me).

 

[Tomorrow]

I can't say if either of those amps would make a sonic difference, because I don't know how loud you listen to your speakers. They certainly might, though.

The MX-2000 is a beautiful amp. The wood sides are a very nice touch. Here is a nice internal photo of one if you haven't seen one already. It is Class A, though, so I'll bet that it'll run hot and probably suck some electricity.

The MX-1 is much more mundane looking, IMO. It's also Class A (I think), but is supposed to be more efficient.

I'd have to research it more to know which one that I'd prefer. Hands down, the MX-2000 wins in the looks department. I don't know which would be a better performer, though.

Adam

I may be all wet here (usually am), but I think neither amp is a true Class A amp. For the X series, Yamaha developed what they call an (HCA) Hyperbolic Conversion Amplification Circuit that mimics Class A operation. It does it with some sort of sliding bias so that you aren't using the full amp load all the time. I believe it is a true Class AB.

Where's Yamahaluver when you need him?

EDIT: Here is what the Yamaha site says about the MX-1...typical of Yamaha...totally confusing:

HCA (HYPERBOLIC CONVERSION AMPLIFICATION)
The Yamaha developed HCA circuit goes a step beyond the conventional Class A amplification generally used in a high performance amplifier. In a Class A amp, when output exceeds a limit determined by the idling current, operation degrades to Class AB, resulting in increased crossover and switching distortion. With the HCA there's less distortion and less heat generation.

 

[Adam]

Thanks, RJ. I saw that wording on Yamaha's site for the MX-1, but I read that the MX-2000 was pure Class A. Doesn't mean that it is, just that someone wrote that.

 

[Midcow2]

Only slight improvement

Thanks, MidCow2! Check the original post for the information that you are seeking (Yamaha Soavo 1 speakers and Yamaha RX-V3800).

Not poking fun at all. It is toooooo early to think straight (at least for me).

Hey Adam thanks ,I guess I missed the original equipment:

Soavo 1 speakers = 6 ohms 89 DB sensitivity - maybe a little power hungry.

V3800= 140 watts per channel.


Remember power is logrithmic. log 260= 2.41
log 140 = 2.146

12.5%


IMHO you might see a slight improvement. 12.5%. with the MX-1 200w into 8 ohms , 260 watts into 4 ohms, but no improvement with the MX-2000 ( rated at 130 RMS per channel)