confused

[08op]

ok i'm confused, is DD and DTS the same thing or different? i ask because i have a yammy 465 that has DD,DTS,TRUEHD..... all that stuff. i think i'm correct that BD has truehd,right? i dont have BD, just a toshiba dvd but all i get is DD. is that right ? i just feel i'm missing something here. thanks for any help, or if i'm a moron just tell me.

 

[Quickley17]

Dolby Digital and DTS are competitive versions ("brands") of surround sound encoding.

I believe, and someone correct me if I am wrong, that BluRay discs are required to support Dolby Digital, DTS, and Linear PCM (which I think is a lossless digital audio format). Anything beyond this, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD, TrueHD, HD Master, are all optional.

New here, but this post can probably be moved somewhere else.

 

[lsiberian]

Dolby Digital and DTS are competitive versions ("brands") of surround sound encoding.

I believe, and someone correct me if I am wrong, that BluRay discs are required to support Dolby Digital, DTS, and Linear PCM (which I think is a lossless digital audio format). Anything beyond this, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD, TrueHD, HD Master, are all optional.

New here, but this post can probably be moved somewhere else.

LPCM is optional.

it's required to have trued hd or hd master. I believe.

 

[Lordoftherings]

ok i'm confused, is DD and DTS the same thing or different? i ask because i have a yammy 465 that has DD,DTS,TRUEHD..... all that stuff. i think i'm correct that BD has truehd,right? i dont have BD, just a toshiba dvd but all i get is DD. is that right ? i just feel i'm missing something here. thanks for any help, or if i'm a moron just tell me.

Your best bet would be to Google all these audio codecs, so you can get familiar with them, and understand where they coming from and what they do.

Briefly, DTS is better than DD, because it is less compressed.

Blu-ray discs can be encoded with Dolby TrueHD, or DTS-HD MA, or DD, or DTS. Or a combination of some of those.

From your Toshiba DVD player, you can only get DD and DTS. It depends of the DVD disc itself; some are encoded with DD, others with DTS. And very few, have both.

You are not a moron, only the ones who believe they are, are.

* Take care & use Google to get some knowledge on all these various resolution audio codecs. There are certainly quite a few of them.

Bob

 

[Pyrrho]

Your best bet would be to Google all these audio codecs, so you can get familiar with them, and understand where they coming from and what they do.

Briefly, DTS is better than DD, because it is less compressed.

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Less compressed does not necessarily mean better sound. The compression algorithm makes a big difference, so a file that is more compressed could sound better than a file that is less compressed. And in the case of DD and dts, part of the larger file size of dts is instructions for decoding, not the actual sound. Also, it gets more complicated than that, as neither DD nor dts are only one size; they both allow for different amounts of compression.

With DD and dts, as far as I know, no independent tests have ever been done to demonstrate that one is better than the other. Both Dolby and dts have done tests, and [surprise!] each claim that they are better than the other.

If you listen at home, there are two things wrong with doing a listening test to try to compare the formats. First, dts is purposely put on louder than DD, and when people do subjective listening tests, slightly louder is generally perceived as being better. This is due to the fact that human hearing is not linear; as you turn down the volume, the bass (and treble) appears to diminish faster than the midrange. So a slightly louder version of something that is otherwise identical will subjectively appear to have more bass, and more treble. And, of course, being slightly louder, one will be able to hear finer details that are too soft to be heard in the less loud version. The second thing, which perhaps ought to have been mentioned first, is that there is no reason to suppose that the two soundtracks are even the same mixes, which can greatly affect the sound independently of the format. For an example of that, listen to the Beatles Yellow Submarine (original release) and compare it with the Yellow Submarine Soundtrack album. Both are in the same format (CD), but because the mix is different, the sound is very different.

 

[Lordoftherings]

^ Well, if you like DD, fine by me.

But I'll take DTS any day of the week. And that's my ears that told me so.

 

[lsiberian]

Your best bet would be to Google all these audio codecs, so you can get familiar with them, and understand where they coming from and what they do.

Briefly, DTS is better than DD, because it is less compressed.

Blu-ray discs can be encoded with Dolby TrueHD, or DTS-HD MA, or DD, or DTS. Or a combination of some of those.

From your Toshiba DVD player, you can only get DD and DTS. It depends of the DVD disc itself; some are encoded with DD, others with DTS. And very few, have both.

You are not a moron, only the ones who believe they are, are.

* Take care & use Google to get some knowledge on all these various resolution audio codecs. There are certainly quite a few of them.

Bob

Format doesn't equate quality. That's determined by the studio, and content.

Never ever forget that. A good movie is better in stereo than a bad movie in surround sound.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Format doesn't equate quality. That's determined by the studio, and content.

Never ever forget that. A good movie is better in stereo than a bad movie in surround sound.

OK, Master.


I'll still stick with DTS.

 

[08op]

ok i will google all these to edumacate myself. i think my real question was missed though, i can pick dts in my avr but then i get no sound, why?? all i get is DD or i can select ex/es DD but no dts. is it because the dvd's were recorded for DD only? or is there a menu in my avr that i'm missing?

 

[Lordoftherings]

ok i will google all these to edumacate myself. i think my real question was missed though, i can pick dts in my avr but then i get no sound, why?? all i get is DD or i can select ex/es DD but no dts. is it because the dvd's were recorded for DD only? or is there a menu in my avr that i'm missing?

First, you have to put a DVD disc that is encoded with a DTS audio soundtrack.
Then you have to select that DTS audio track from that DVD audio menu setup.
So, it's probably, just like you're saying, a DVD with only a DD encoded audio soundtrack.
Your receiver should automatically decode the audio soundtrack that you feed it.
Just look in your DVD collection, to see if one has a DTS audio soundtrack (it should say on the back cover). Put it in your DVD player, and select that DTS audio soundtrack, and your receiver should display DTS in it's front panel display (automatically), and the sound should emanate from all your speakers.

Try it, and let us know.