Class D-Amps/ receivers

[WmAx]

One guy in particular who's works as a recording engineer tells me he's stunned by his new STR-DA5000ES. It uses a proprietary "S-Master" amp module to delivery 170 x 7 into 8 ohms, and purportedly keeps the signal in the digital domain right up to the amp stage.

Plenty of B.S. conceptions(delusions) in the pro arena too....

-Chris

 

[WmAx]

That's complex, but it does remove one conversion cycle. You could say the module is the DAC, but in a sense your speaker is part of the DAC, too. To clarify, the JVC has an actual DAC section that feeds the amp, where it's modulated by the amp. The Panny can omit this conversion, with the digital amp module "converting" the digital signal. The signal stays digital thru all DSP stage right up to the amp module.

The only advantage of maintaining a 'digital' signal right up to the amp module(it's going to be convereted sooner or later) is to keep noise as low as possible. However, in modern properly designed equipment noise is no audible issue in the analogue preamp and switching circuits of conventional equipment.

-Chris

 

[Rob Babcock]

So are you saying the Sony recievers don't sound good or recording engineers don't know sound? Please clarify which blanket assumption you're asserting!

 

[WmAx]

So are you saying the Sony recievers don't sound good or recording engineers don't know sound? Please clarify which blanket assumption you're asserting!

I'm saying that ANYONE who does not subject such a claim to controlled blind testing or meaurements backed up with valid perceptual research in order to demonstrate validity of audibility can not be taken seriously.

Proclomations of experience as a form of proof in place of substantial data on an issue such as amplifier audibility mean zero to WmAx.

-Chris

 

[Yamahaluver]

So are you saying the Sony recievers don't sound good or recording engineers don't know sound? Please clarify which blanket assumption you're asserting!

Rob,

Give it up, SONY engineers are all low IQ, uneducated fools with wax in their ears and recording engineers are just glorified knob pushers.

Yamaha is the biggest scamster selling their hyped D-MOSFET amp for $4500. They are all superstitious fools selling snake oil.

 

[Rob Babcock]

How do you know he didn't, Chris? You must think you're the only guy in the world with a clue, huh? At any rate, why would he need a study to prove to you that he loved it? Again- and read this slowly and repeatedly if necessary- he found it equalled anything he'd ever heard. If you assert it's not, perhaps you can set up your own DBT to refute it. Until then, I'll just let him enjoy his Sony in ignorance.

For a guy who thinks amps and recievers all basically sound the same you sure are averse to the idea that the Sony could sound good. Why is that, exactly?

 

[WmAx]

If you assert it's not, perhaps you can set up your own DBT to refute it.

*If*? but I did not assert anything about the Sony one way or the other. Actually, I doubt it sounds any worse(or better) then any other competantlly designed amplifier of equivalent power output.

My response to your last post only meant to point out that someone is not immune from biases regarldess of their *experience* and I don't give brownie points for *experience* as a lone factor. Don't read too much into my replies - they are typically worth only face value.

-Chris