Center Speaker Bi wire to subwoofer?

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Leon1971

Audiophyte
Hello,
I have a center speaker (JBL LC2) that I can bi wire.
My receiver (Onkyo 606) only allows me to bi wire the front left and right speakers.
Is any powered subwoofer that I can use to bi wire my center speaker?
Sorry my grammar...:rolleyes:
Thanks Alexis
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Hello,
I have a center speaker (JBL LC2) that I can bi wire.
My receiver (Onkyo 606) only allows me to bi wire the front left and right speakers.
Is any powered subwoofer that I can use to bi wire my center speaker?
Sorry my grammar...:rolleyes:
Thanks Alexis
I think you are confusing bi-wiring with passive bi-amping. Both are bogus and useless, and can cause damage especially when you don't have the first clue of what the is involved.

Just wire your system normally with one twin pair lead to each speaker and forget the bogus science.
 
DD66000

DD66000

Senior Audioholic
I'll second TLS, bi-wire is totally useless. That LC2 will sound great with just one connection, as will all your speakers.
 
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greggp2

Senior Audioholic
There are some speakers that do benefit from bi-wiring, like the B&W's. They do indeed sound better and B&W themselves recommend bi-wiring. But all in all, with a 600 series Onkyo and JBL C series speakers, I don't think you'd notice much of a difference; especially if you use a good heavy gauge cable, like 12 gauge. What ever you do though, don't try to wire you speaker to your subwoofer...

Your receiver has nothing to do with bi-wiring. Perhaps bi-amping, but not bi-wiring. With bi-wiring you need a speaker cable with 2 connections on one end and 4 on the end that attaches to the speaker...

Your center channel connection has 2 binding posts. You would connect the cable I just mentioned to your receiver and the 4 end side to your upper and lower binding posts on your speaker....
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
You cannot biamp/biwire a speaker to your sub because all of the power goes to the sub. No power comes out of the sub on the speaker level outputs from the sub itself - the sub is a pass through so if you didn't use the speaker level inputs, then the speaker level outputs are not powered.

It was already said, biwiring makes no difference. I can't possibly see why some speakers would benefit and others would not; that is simply not true, regardless of what B&W recommends. I am sure that every manufacturer that has dual binding posts "recommends" it as well.
 
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greggp2

Senior Audioholic
Perhaps they feel that signal is lost when going through the jumpers?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
The jumpers are one of the problems as 99% of them are brass (gold plated). Just swapping them for a short piece of whatever speaker wire you are using can sometimes yield a small improvement in my testing, but nothing to write home about IMO.
 
DD66000

DD66000

Senior Audioholic
99% of the time dual pairs of binding posts is nothing more than a marketing gimic.
And certainly for the LC2, which has a limited RF to 50htz. Absolutely no reason to bi-amp or bi-wire.
If you were using a speaker that went down to 28htz, as the L890, or lower, then there might be some benefit to bi-amp. But just using a more powerful amp for all of it would be much better.
I think the majority of people who bi-amp are using a tube amp for the upper end and SS amp for the bass.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
There are some speakers that do benefit from bi-wiring, like the B&W's. They do indeed sound better and B&W themselves recommend bi-wiring. But all in all, with a 600 series Onkyo and JBL C series speakers, I don't think you'd notice much of a difference; especially if you use a good heavy gauge cable, like 12 gauge. What ever you do though, don't try to wire you speaker to your subwoofer...

Your receiver has nothing to do with bi-wiring. Perhaps bi-amping, but not bi-wiring. With bi-wiring you need a speaker cable with 2 connections on one end and 4 on the end that attaches to the speaker...

Your center channel connection has 2 binding posts. You would connect the cable I just mentioned to your receiver and the 4 end side to your upper and lower binding posts on your speaker....
Absolute nonsense. There is no math that supports bi-wire no matter what speaker manufacturers say.
 
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