ceiling speakers for music listening ONLY...???

[nickmx450]

I have a Denon avr-4100w....pushing 125 watts, I have 2 tower speakers and one sub in the living room but I want some solid ceiling speakers for the kitchen .....I bought 2 def tech DI-8R speakers and they sounded "ok" until I cranked it up one night after a few margaritas and they both blew...(or I assume they blew because they don't sound the same anymore....lol) They cost $350 each and they were SUPPOSE to handle up tp 225 watts ......I could really use some help before I spend any more money on speakers....I am looking for room filling bass as well as clarity ........thank you

 

[TLS Guy]

I have a Denon avr-4100w....pushing 125 watts, I have 2 tower speakers and one sub in the living room but I want some solid ceiling speakers for the kitchen .....I bought 2 def tech DI-8R speakers and they sounded "ok" until I cranked it up one night after a few margaritas and they both blew...(or I assume they blew because they don't sound the same anymore....lol) They cost $350 each and they were SUPPOSE to handle up tp 225 watts ......I could really use some help before I spend any more money on speakers....I am looking for room filling bass as well as clarity ........thank you

Your goals are unrealistic. Ceiling speakers are strictly for background music. Def Tech are well known to embellish specs. I know of no ceiling speakers that will handle the powers you are talking about.

 

[PietjePuk]

I'd get some decent bookshelves and position those nicely

 

[KenM10759]

If you have to stick with ceiling speakers, try these. KEF doesn't often overestimate the power their speakers can handle. At least I've never heard of it.

KEF Ci200QR

 

[TLS Guy]

If you have to stick with ceiling speakers, try these. KEF doesn't often overestimate the power their speakers can handle. At least I've never heard of it.

KEF Ci200QR

I bet that speaker would not tolerate 150 watts very long, a few seconds max I reckon.

 

[KenM10759]

I bet that speaker would not tolerate 150 watts very long, a few seconds max I reckon.

Given how hard my son has driven his Q300's, I feel it would endure up to 150 watts longer than a few seconds. On the other hand, consider the Def Tech speaker got blown out by a Denon AVR-X4100W rated at only 125w/ch @ 2 channels driven then those Ci200QR should be in no danger.

 

[lovinthehd]

Looking at the "specs" DT provides, these seem to have less info "spec'd" than some of their other stuff; it says a 225 watt peak handling, continuous who knows, half of that or less? They only mention an impedance range of 4-8 ohm and the avr will put out much more than 125 into 4 ohm. How were they wired to the avr?

....so who knows but undoubtedly the maragaritas helped that volume knob to go beyond a good point. Maybe trying to hear them at significant volume without standing under them where they work best....

 

[lewb]

Your goals are unrealistic. Ceiling speakers are strictly for background music. Def Tech are well known to embellish specs. I know of no ceiling speakers that will handle the powers you are talking about.

I respectfully disagree, I have 5 Acoustech HT-8C in the ceiling(3)center, r/l side surround and in wall (2) rear surrounds with R and L Acoustech HT-8W in-wall. This is in a living/great room open floor plan into kitchen 7.1, Powered with a x2000 denon 95watts per channel. The comment I got from a college age niece was " it feels like a club in here" while handing out margaritas,

 

[KenM10759]

A club? Just exactly what I wouldn't want my surround system to sound like. Glad it works for you though.

 

[shadyJ]

TLS Guy is right. Those numbers are mostly just speculative guidelines. It's all about how hot the voice coil will get when you run current through it. You could kill these speakers easy with less than their rated power handling if you put all that energy into the right kind of signal. The KEF speakers would be easy to kill, as would the acoustech speakers, if you fed them the right signal. Think about how hot a filament for a 60 watt bulb gets. Yes, there is a lot more mass in a voice coil, and a lot more cooling, but all you have to do to destroy it is burn off the adhesive that binds the coil- you don't have to get it so hot that it melts the copper windings. Feed any of your speakers a 70 watt signal that is just a 10 kHz sine wave and see how long it lasts.

 

[lovinthehd]

A club? Just exactly what I wouldn't want my surround system to sound like. Glad it works for you though.

It's nice to have the flexibility to do that with your gear if you so desire, though. I do like it when a club scene comes on in a movie, it's realistic at least (maybe not desirable for much more than a brief scene, tho ).

 

[KenM10759]

I don't think I've ever been in a club that has the sound system pumping through ceiling speakers. Speakers mounted high above a stage or high on the walls, yes.

 

[lewb]

The comment of "its like a club in here" is more of the immersive sound from all the speakers a -12 db with the bass hitting your chest from the 8 inch woofers in the in ceiling speakers using multi channel stereo setting. I put on Pandora club/dance which has a ton of bass, I could not name one Dj or artist that is played on that channel, which kind of ages me. I also have 2 6.5 inch in ceiling mono price speakers in the kitchen using zone 2 firing at the same time as well. My ceiling height is 10' in this area. Yes I have been in a club with speaker mounted in the ceiling, you may notice that most bars do not have fixed ceilings anymore, they black out the rafters/trusses with tons of room to mount lights, speakers. My only real recent experience in a club/bar is that the music is coming at you from all angles (immersive).

 

[lewb]

A club? Just exactly what I wouldn't want my surround system to sound like. Glad it works for you though.

To each his own,