Capitalism and the slow collapse of the USA

[Kingnoob]

America has started looking like a second or third world country we’re the small amount of rich people bleed the economy dry and, Jobs exist there that don’t even pay enough to live on. Capitalism only works for the rich and is on its way to collapsing the economy and making entire generations soon to be homeless. Today’s terrible below entry level underclass jobs expect older generations to care for millennials and younger generations forever , and refuse to pay living wages or even full time. No benefits, or healthcare.
Neo-feudalism Is one of the common terms for this but American-Capitalism is basically identical the government allows it to happen because banks and corporations lobby them to keep the prices cheap for the elites. So the wealthy can get everything cheap while draining the lower classes of all there wealth and former freedoms. I wouldn’t say this is exclusive to one country but it’s going to cause the Collapse of the USA.
USA Has been this way forever. It’s The Modern Roman Empire a state ruled by elites.
They shipped all the real desk and non desk entry level jobs to China , India and Mexico? We’re did they all go? Nothing left but underclass poverty jobs??
Today’s economy cannot sustain anything the system is going to collapse. Hyperinflation and inflation also will continue to lower wages. And not only will today’s low paid workers enjoy making nothing they will be convinced these mega corporations will create better jobs that are long gone shipped overseas. The propaganda machine will continue to brainwash with American-Capitalism entertainment to keep people from thinking. It’s like a Modern Roman Empire the people have zero power to change anything .

 

[isolar8001]

America has started looking like a second or third world country we’re the small amount of rich people bleed the economy dry and, Jobs exist there that don’t even pay enough to live on. Capitalism only works for the rich and is on its way to collapsing the economy and making entire generations soon to be homeless. Today’s terrible below entry level underclass jobs expect older generations to care for millennials and younger generations forever , and refuse to pay living wages or even full time. No benefits, or healthcare.
Neo-feudalism Is one of the common terms for this but American-Capitalism is basically identical the government allows it to happen because banks and corporations lobby them to keep the prices cheap for the elites. So the wealthy can get everything cheap while draining the lower classes of all there wealth and former freedoms. I wouldn’t say this is exclusive to one country but it’s going to cause the Collapse of the USA.
USA Has been this way forever. It’s The Modern Roman Empire a state ruled by elites.
They shipped all the real desk and non desk entry level jobs to China , India and Mexico? We’re did they all go? Nothing left but underclass poverty jobs??
Today’s economy cannot sustain anything the system is going to collapse. Hyperinflation and inflation also will continue to lower wages. And not only will today’s low paid workers enjoy making nothing they will be convinced these mega corporations will create better jobs that are long gone shipped overseas. The propaganda machine will continue to brainwash with American-Capitalism entertainment to keep people from thinking. It’s like a Modern Roman Empire the people have zero power to change anything .

See if you can find an article about how some members of society that are totally useless still have it good enough to copy/paste articles to a hi-fi web forum at 5am to cry about how poor they are due to their own choices.

 

[Dude#1279435]

You'd need to use some statistic to show the middle class are getting poorer. That years ago only the man has to go out and work and the family was set etc. Personally I believe capitalism is a necessary evil. Yeah they're greedy bastards, but they also are the producers of the world. Capitalism is not equality. Some are more talented, or work harder than others. Some yeah are born into wealth, but that's life.

 

[j_garcia]

The revolution will be televised.

There's no imminent collapse, sorry. The ones struggling are the same ones who voted for this administration and now they are going to regret that sorely. That demographic were struggling before the election and now they are suffering even more because the administration has nothing but empty promises and an agenda to help themselves not those who voted for them.

Did your account get hacked?

 

[Mikado463]

So, who's going to the Army's parade in DC ? anyone attending a 'No Kings Day' event somewhere ?

 

[Trell]

So, who's going to the Army's parade in DC ? anyone attending a 'No Kings Day' event somewhere ?

Fight for freedom and against dictatorship wherever it is. You might recall this picture:

 

[Dude#1279435]

So, who's going to the Army's parade in DC ? anyone attending a 'No Kings Day' event somewhere ?

Maybe Faux will televise it. Think I heard it was barely going to get any coverage. Vibe is wrong though LOL. Kind of a shame since it's the 250th anniversary.

 

[Trell]

So, who's going to the Army's parade in DC ? anyone attending a 'No Kings Day' event somewhere ?

All in honour for this person representing what is best and great of USA /sarcasm

 

[Kingnoob]

All in honour for this person representing what is best and great of USA /sarcasm

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Does this image represent trump mixed with Kim Jong un? That could represent the USA . Except we have a bigger police state then Korea.

You'd need to use some statistic to show the middle class are getting poorer. That years ago only the man has to go out and work and the family was set etc. Personally I believe capitalism is a necessary evil. Yeah they're greedy bastards, but they also are the producers of the world. Capitalism is not equality. Some are more talented, or work harder than others. Some yeah are born into wealth, but that's life.

any statistic I found basically said you had to make 50k plus a year to even be that class. Those jobs require a lot of skills and experience a 4 year degree and or can do a very challenging trade or ownership of a business.
As for the average worker that class is extinct. It could take 4 + years of college plus many years just for the skills for a job that pays this much. By then the cost of living might be so high you can no longer live on that much. Compared to someone who’s poor these people who make this much are rich.

The salary you need to be considered middle class in every U.S. state

A six-figure salary might seem like a lot, but the upper range of middle-class earnings exceeds $100,000 in every U.S. state.

www.cnbc.com

And in my local area
There’s no entry level jobs that pay a living wage here.
Modern low level workers are like a underclass or lower than working class here , because the government doesn’t mandate a living wage or full time those jobs are mostly gone. Places only pay low wages and part time here unless you’re in management or better. Retailers and food service and similar businesses are like modern robber barons paying poverty wages that cannot possibly pay the cost of living. These Jobs exist solely to make the elites money. They’re completely pointless for anyone stuck in them… if you cant afford to live in the country you live in your being robbed blind and can’t possibly pay debt off or buy anything important. With unions being mostly gone today’s low level workers are basically working for free or nothing. If they don’t make the cost of living why even bother?. Are they expected to work and be homeless at the same time? How can anyone afford a car and housing and food on these terrible paying jobs? No benefits or healthcare included and nearly all part time.

 

[isolar8001]

Does this image represent trump mixed with Kim Jong un? That could represent the USA . Except we have a bigger police state then Korea.
any statistic I found basically said you had to make 50k plus a year to even be that class. Those jobs require a lot of skills and experience a 4 year degree and or can do a very challenging trade or ownership of a business.
As for the average worker that class is extinct. It could take 4 + years of college plus many years just for the skills for a job that pays this much. By then the cost of living might be so high you can no longer live on that much. Compared to someone who’s poor these people who make this much are rich.

The salary you need to be considered middle class in every U.S. state

A six-figure salary might seem like a lot, but the upper range of middle-class earnings exceeds $100,000 in every U.S. state.

www.cnbc.com

And in my local area
There’s no entry level jobs that pay a living wage here.
Modern low level workers are like a underclass or lower than working class here , because the government doesn’t mandate a living wage or full time those jobs are mostly gone. Places only pay low wages and part time here unless you’re in management or better. Retailers and food service and similar businesses are like modern robber barons paying poverty wages that cannot possibly pay the cost of living. These Jobs exist solely to make the elites money. They’re completely pointless for anyone stuck in them… if you cant afford to live in the country you live in your being robbed blind and can’t possibly pay debt off or buy anything important. With unions being mostly gone today’s low level workers are basically working for free or nothing. If they don’t make the cost of living why even bother?. Are they expected to work and be homeless at the same time? How can anyone afford a car and housing and food on these terrible paying jobs? No benefits or healthcare included and nearly all part time.

The only person you can blame with absolute certainty in these matters is yourself.

What did you think the outcome of being a parasite in your parents basement for years and years would be ?
That when you finally did get a job, that one of these "robber barons" would take pity on you and pay you enough for your unskilled worthless labor to afford your own housing, food, healthcare, transportation and maybe some new audio equipment ?
What a colorful fantasy that must be.

Pretty obvious that mommy and daddy laid down the law on you, and now you have no options but to do what all of us do...pay your own way.

 

[Trell]

Does this image represent trump mixed with Kim Jong un?

It's likeness to Kim Jong-un is intentional.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Does this image represent trump mixed with Kim Jong un? That could represent the USA . Except we have a bigger police state then Korea.
any statistic I found basically said you had to make 50k plus a year to even be that class. Those jobs require a lot of skills and experience a 4 year degree and or can do a very challenging trade or ownership of a business.
As for the average worker that class is extinct. It could take 4 + years of college plus many years just for the skills for a job that pays this much. By then the cost of living might be so high you can no longer live on that much. Compared to someone who’s poor these people who make this much are rich.

The salary you need to be considered middle class in every U.S. state

A six-figure salary might seem like a lot, but the upper range of middle-class earnings exceeds $100,000 in every U.S. state.

www.cnbc.com

And in my local area
There’s no entry level jobs that pay a living wage here.
Modern low level workers are like a underclass or lower than working class here , because the government doesn’t mandate a living wage or full time those jobs are mostly gone. Places only pay low wages and part time here unless you’re in management or better. Retailers and food service and similar businesses are like modern robber barons paying poverty wages that cannot possibly pay the cost of living. These Jobs exist solely to make the elites money. They’re completely pointless for anyone stuck in them… if you cant afford to live in the country you live in your being robbed blind and can’t possibly pay debt off or buy anything important. With unions being mostly gone today’s low level workers are basically working for free or nothing. If they don’t make the cost of living why even bother?. Are they expected to work and be homeless at the same time? How can anyone afford a car and housing and food on these terrible paying jobs? No benefits or healthcare included and nearly all part time.

Why there's a minimum wage.

 

[highfigh]

There’s no entry level jobs that pay a living wage here.
Modern low level workers are like a underclass or lower than working class here , because the government doesn’t mandate a living wage or full time those jobs are mostly gone. Places only pay low wages and part time here unless you’re in management or better. Retailers and food service and similar businesses are like modern robber barons paying poverty wages that cannot possibly pay the cost of living. These Jobs exist solely to make the elites money. They’re completely pointless for anyone stuck in them… if you cant afford to live in the country you live in your being robbed blind and can’t possibly pay debt off or buy anything important. With unions being mostly gone today’s low level workers are basically working for free or nothing. If they don’t make the cost of living why even bother?. Are they expected to work and be homeless at the same time? How can anyone afford a car and housing and food on these terrible paying jobs? No benefits or healthcare included and nearly all part time.

Jobs are gained and lost in many cases because of competition, not mandate. Living wage isn't the same everywhere and the government isn't in the business of telling employers how much they have to pay- some jobs need to be done, but they aren't so important that they should pay a lot- others require skills and knowledge that takes a long time to acquire.

What is your location? If you have the knowledge and skills to get a better job than what's available locally, maybe you could relocate.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Jobs are gained and lost in many cases because of competition, not mandate. Living wage isn't the same everywhere and the government isn't in the business of telling employers how much they have to pay- some jobs need to be done, but they aren't so important that they should pay a lot- others require skills and knowledge that takes a long time to acquire.

What is your location? If you have the knowledge and skills to get a better job than what's available locally, maybe you could relocate.

I'd disagree a bit with that. I think govt has established a minimum wage for a reason. I'm not too confident the "goodness" of corporations will automatically pay decent wages via the free market.

 

[Trell]

Why there's a minimum wage.

Are you serious?

 

[highfigh]

I'd disagree a bit with that. I think govt has established a minimum wage for a reason. I'm not too confident the "goodness" of corporations will automatically pay decent wages via the free market.

That's minimum wage, not living wage. They know that given the choice, some employers wold require employees to pay in order to work.

On Next Door, someone was bitching about pay and they were trying to tell everyone that baristas deserve $20/hour. I'll make my own damned coffee and don't want someone else telling me how much I'll enjoy their $5+ stuff. I'm not driving anywhere for one cup when I can relax at home with mine. I know of skilled positions that don't pay $20/hour and I think they deserve more, but those industries don't agree.

 

[Mikado463]

Congrats highfigh, your buddy Trell gave you another 'award', LMAO !!

 

[Trell]

That's minimum wage, not living wage. They know that given the choice, some employers wold require employees to pay in order to work.

On Next Door, someone was bitching about pay and they were trying to tell everyone that baristas deserve $20/hour. I'll make my own damned coffee and don't want someone else telling me how much I'll enjoy their $5+ stuff. I'm not driving anywhere for one cup when I can relax at home with mine. I know of skilled positions that don't pay $20/hour and I think they deserve more, but those industries don't agree.

You rally are dumb, aren't you?

 

[Trell]

Congrats highfigh, your buddy Trell gave you another 'award', LMAO !!

You are what you are: deplorable

 

[Dude#1279435]

That's minimum wage, not living wage. They know that given the choice, some employers wold require employees to pay in order to work.

On Next Door, someone was bitching about pay and they were trying to tell everyone that baristas deserve $20/hour. I'll make my own damned coffee and don't want someone else telling me how much I'll enjoy their $5+ stuff. I'm not driving anywhere for one cup when I can relax at home with mine. I know of skilled positions that don't pay $20/hour and I think they deserve more, but those industries don't agree.

I saw $7.25 in some places so not real sure where I'm going with that one. California's is $16.50 for minimum wage. I remember about five years ago a place or people were asking to move it to $20. That was crazy back then. Before the Ford strike some of those people were making the same wage as I, and I didn't have to pay union dues LOL. I believe they settle on a 25% increase over a 3-4 year period. So guess I'm confused what the merit of a minimum wage is if in some places it's still $7.25 LOL Let alone if the employer could even find employees.