Can we have a rational discussion about guns and why the typical arguments for gun control and its implementation won't work?

[Mikado463]

This comes to mind

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LOL, that reminded me of a dear friend that had a mega shotgun collection and a walk in gun vault. He had a seven figure home that was worth 'less' than his shotgun collection !

 

[TankTop5]

Pretty simple really. When gun owners say don't want more firepower,.they want more. It's like going to candyland, but where guns are sold. It's impulsive, or OCD. I dunno. Doesn't matter. The only one that matters: feds > gun owners.

I honestly don’t know a single gun owner that doesn’t want more firepower. Sadly I’ve already arrived at the legal limit of 1/2” bore, to go any further I’ll need to get a rectal exam and pay $200 in taxes. Did you know someone recently invented a reusable base like a shotgun shell for 40mm grenade launcher. Nobody wanted to go through the hassle of a single shot but now that the serialized part is reusable its game on. You can even 3D print projectiles and it’s legal to fill them with up to 1/2lb of binary explosive. The only caveat is it’s illegal to transport or store the explosive shell so you must mix the binary and use it at the same location.

and yes I’m completely trolling but it’s fun. The info is accurate and legal

AZAO INC

 

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LOL, that reminded me of a dear friend that had a mega shotgun collection and a walk in gun vault. He had a seven figure home that was worth 'less' than his shotgun collection !

Same here. The guy I knew had a very pristine collection of all Winchesters pre-64 model 70's and each Winchester Model 12 shotguns . And 4 beautiful Model 21's. He has a very rare Tournament Skeet model.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Did you know someone recently invented a reusable base like a shotgun shell for 40mm grenade launcher. Nobody wanted to go through the hassle of a single shot but now that the serialized part is reusable its game on. You can even 3D print projectiles and it’s legal to fill them with up to 1/2lb of binary explosive. The only caveat is it’s illegal to transport or store the explosive shell so you must mix the binary and use it at the same location.

Jeez I wonder why that is?!?! It might have to do with gov is trying to make it more difficult for people cause they cannot control themselves.

 

[TankTop5]

Jeez I wonder why that is?!?! It might have to do with gov is trying to make it more difficult for people cause they cannot control themselves.

Your statement is amazing and right on time as the idea that the government needs to control people is being eviscerated in real time. Wokeism has been a tyranny against freedom. These people believe that most people are too stupid to think for themselves so government needs to control what they think, what they can own etc. it’s really sick

 

[highfigh]

I dunno what you're talking about. Very clear sentences by gun owners above who think, but also think quite a few of their peers believe the goal is to have more firepower.

It's not up to them to decide what is available. This doesn't mean I approve of nanny government, it's a matter of not going overboard in their zeal. It's a classis case of "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should".

 

[highfigh]

Jeez I wonder why that is?!?! It might have to do with gov is trying to make it more difficult for people cause they cannot control themselves.

"...cause they cannot control themselves."- this has been my point all along but legislating guns out of marketing existance and ending availability of new guns will only make people want them more. People definitely can't control themselves, but there's damned little being done about changing that.

 

[TankTop5]

Dan Bongino… that is all.

 

[Trell]

Dan Bongino… that is all.

Yet another Trump DEI hire: Incompetent and unqualified white male with low moral integrity nominated to a high position of importance and responsibility.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Yet another Trump DEI hire: Incompetent and unqualified white male with low moral integrity nominated to a high position of importance and responsibility.

Yup - DEI.
Dan Bongino tapped as FBI deputy director. Who is he? : NPR

 

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Yup - DEI.
Dan Bongino tapped as FBI deputy director. Who is he? : NPR

Just another member of Trumps secret police force, I guess Himmler oh, Musk told Trump to hire him.

 

[dlaloum]

Well eliminating DEI has truly generated substantial Diversity and Inclusion for a previously under-represented social group.... the under qualified, and demonstrably incompetent white males.... This aspect of Diversity and Inclusion has now been remedied....

A hord of unqualified incompetent white males are now being put into place.... Huzzah!

 

[j_garcia]

I mean, what do they think will happen in the next election? Oddly, they had some voters who were in those DEI categories, despite the very clear bigotry. If you stop those programs and filter these people out, who do you think they are going to vote for next time, regardless of their candidate?

Their economy choices are also hurting the people who voted for them. Maybe it is rhetorical, but are they literally stupid?

 

[Trell]

Their economy choices are also hurting the people who voted for them. Maybe it is rhetorical, but are they literally stupid?

If you mean those poor and uneducated Americans that voted on Trump and Republicans: An unqualified yes.

The very rich ones knows better and gets the tax cuts.

 

[j_garcia]

If you mean those poor and uneducated Americans that voted on Trump and Republicans: An unqualified yes.

The very rich ones knows better and gets the tax cuts.

I meant the administration choices are hurting their voters, but it works on both levels. Those uneducated voters are being hurt, but the administration is also underestimating the fact that those voters will turn on them. They were already angry voters. They aren't going to get LESS angry when things get worse for them. Both sides not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.

 

[Trell]

I meant the administration choices are hurting their voters, but it works on both levels. Those uneducated voters are being hurt, but the administration is also underestimating the fact that those voters will turn on them. They were already angry voters. They aren't going to get LESS angry when things get worse for them.

The Trump administration don't care nor does the Republican members of Congress, as shown by their votes. And rightly so, as seen by voting, over time.

What they are upset about is that is happening to them instead of "those others".

Both sides not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.

I'll have to disagree with that.