Can a Tower Speaker be seated on a Sub?

[Biggz]

Happy new years,
I have been wondering lately as my components continue to grow, if a Tower speaker could be seated on the top of a Subwoofer. The Sub in question would be down firing. The Tower has 8 inch woofers. I would like more space for a power amp. Thanks for the response.
Biggz

 

[zumbo]

Happy new years,
I have been wondering lately as my components continue to grow, if a Tower speaker could be seated on the top of a Subwoofer. The Sub in question would be down firing. The Tower has 8 inch woofers. I would like more space for a power amp. Thanks for the response.
Biggz

You gonna put the amp where the sub is now?

 

[sholling]

The tweeters will be too high, they need to be at ear level when you're seated.

 

[Warpdrv]

You gunna be able to keep the tweeters at ear level ?

 

[Biggz]

I too was under the impression that the tweeters would have to be at ear level. I saw a picture on the web with that configuration, so I wondered if that was correct. If so, I would use the space for a power amp. I guess I'm going to have to move the center speaker when I get to that point. I'm working with 10.5 feet of wall space and a second sub coming in a few days.
Biggz

 

[jostenmeat]

I too was under the impression that the tweeters would have to be at ear level. I saw a picture on the web with that configuration, so I wondered if that was correct. If so, I would use the space for a power amp. I guess I'm going to have to move the center speaker when I get to that point. I'm working with 10.5 feet of wall space and a second sub coming in a few days.
Biggz

I raised my front three. The amount you are offaxis is dependent on the following:

height of tweeter
height of ears at seated position
distance from ears to speakers

If the offset will only be say a few degrees, I wouldn't worry about it at all.

In fact, I've been considering building vertical MTMs, and in this case being onaxis becomes ever more imperative due to greater amounts of lobing offaxis (this happens when two drivers are playing the exact* same thing).

Well, Swerd (one of our in house experts) said I have nothing to worry about at all when I told him that I would be 4 degrees offaxis in the front row, and 2 degrees offaxis in the back (which means the most even compromise I could is 3/3).

If your tower is simply something like a TMW or TW, you can figure out how offaxis you would be. It may not even be audible at all, unless your subwoofer is super tall, or that you sit super close.

 

[Biggz]

I raised my front three. The amount you are offaxis is dependent on the following:

height of tweeter
height of ears at seated position
distance from ears to speakers

If the offset will only be say a few degrees, I wouldn't worry about it at all.

In fact, I've been considering building vertical MTMs, and in this case being onaxis becomes ever more imperative due to greater amounts of lobing offaxis (this happens when two drivers are playing the exact* same thing).

Well, Swerd (one of our in house experts) said I have nothing to worry about at all when I told him that I would be 4 degrees offaxis in the front row, and 2 degrees offaxis in the back (which means the most even compromise I could is 3/3).

If your tower is simply something like a TMW or TW, you can figure out how offaxis you would be. It may not even be audible at all, unless your subwoofer is super tall, or that you sit super close.

I'm guessing the speaker's tweeters will be approx. 60 inches high. A good 30 inches over ear level. I'm not familiar with TMW or TW. I did google it and found info on DIY speakers but I'm not sure. The more i think about it maybe it won't be the best solution if I have to sacrifice sound quality. I would be 15 feet from the speakers though.
Biggz

 

[krzywica]

I'm guessing the speaker's tweeters will be approx. 60 inches high. A good 30 inches over ear level. I'm not familiar with TMW or TW. I did google it and found info on DIY speakers but I'm not sure. The more i think about it maybe it won't be the best solution if I have to sacrifice sound quality. I would be 15 feet from the speakers though.
Biggz

I wouldn't be able to live with that scenario. 30" is too much!

 

[Warpdrv]

Its possible for it to work, but the seating location would have to be greater and the speakers aimed downward at the ear height....

Also keep in mind, unless you are running vibration free subwoofers, there'll be a good likelihood that the speakers would move around on top of those subs...

 

[jostenmeat]

I'm guessing the speaker's tweeters will be approx. 60 inches high. A good 30 inches over ear level.

Wow, you guys don't have any chairs or couches, and sit on the floor?

I'm not familiar with TMW or TW.

tweeter/mid/woofer, and tweeter/woofer (but I should have probably said tweeter/mid to be much more accurate, sorry).

 

[Pablo2k]

Put the sun where you are going to be seating, get on your knees, and search where the most concentration of bass is, That is where you are going to put your sub, even if it means blocking the door or removing your wife's favorite piece of furniture! just kidding, but that would! be the best spot for it.
Keep tweeters at ear level, always.

 

[lsiberian]

9.5 degrees seems pretty insignificant to me. I wouldn't worry about it too much myself. I doubt For the record I think sitting height is typically 4 feet at least. This isn't space travel you don't need to be unreasonably tedious about things.

 

[Biggz]

Wow, you guys don't have any chairs or couches, and sit on the floor?

Ok, I'm a knucklehead. I did some real calculations. The tower plus the sub will be 61". 18 for the sub and 43 for the tower. Minus an approximate seating position of 48" leaves the Tweeters 12 - 13" above ear levels. We stopped using those darn milk crates years ago. Things were so simple back then. The towers are two-way towers with dual 8" woofers and dual 8" passive radiators. The Brand is BIC America Venturi. The subs are BIC V1220.

tweeter/mid/woofer, and tweeter/woofer (but I should have probably said tweeter/mid to be much more accurate, sorry).

I really appreciate the feedback from all of you guys. The apology isn't necessary. All of this is going to get me closer to a power amp. Those "Emos'"
look real good for the price. Once I (with your help) find a solution that I can live with, I will have to figure out if my avr is really producing 110 watts per channel as Onkyo claims. I had some experience a lifetime ago when I did a little DJing. It doesn't seem to be that powerful to me. Unfortunately the Peavey towers and my Mac grow legs one night in Brooklyn.

Also keep in mind, unless you are running vibration free subwoofers, there'll be a good likelihood that the speakers would move around on top of those subs...

This is also a concern. I would certainly have to come up with some type of isolation if I try this configuration.

even if it means blocking the door or removing your wife's favorite piece of furniture! just kidding, but that would! be the best spot for it.
Keep tweeters at ear level, always.

Man Pablo, your going to get me hot water.