buy yamaha rxv650 or pioneer vsx1014txk?

[Reorx]

Do you know if the Pioneer can do A+B or is it just A or B?

Also, did you ever look into Harmon Kardon as well? I hear nothing but good things about their receivers.

I'll probably just stick with the 650 due to the fact that the wife is spending my money for "needed" things, and now I need to stay very close to the $300 mark after S/H.

Yammy 650 for $279 + s/h
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39801&item=5765031055&tc=photo

We are fully authorized by every major consumer electronics manufacturer to sell TVs, DVD players, Home Theater Systems, speakers, car audio, computers, etc. We sell factory-sealed goods from JVC, Toshiba, Harman Kardon, JBL and many more. - Electronic Superstore

I emailed them to double check on the warranty and if they are Yamaha authorized...

Reorx

 

[MasterChief]

If Im not mistaked A + B is 2 zones so yes it does do A + B at the same time.

 

[scarecrow]

ReorX - You're going to be happy with a 650 or better, it's an excellent buy for the $. I just think hk is a bit too pricy.
I decided, to get the pioneer I'd have to return the yamaha, pick up the pioneer and I probably couldn't get the yamaha back for the same price, so I'm going to keep the yamaha (htr5760/rxv650) as a starter and upgrade down the road. To get the yamaha htr5790 I'd have to throw in approx 350 dollars and it's probably better to save that change and throw it in for a completely new model. I have to start from here, I wish I could go back. The yamaha 5760/650 is a nice package to start and I don't really mind the sound for music and there is some power there. More power usually does = better sound so I'd prefer a better model. I'm just going to use this one as a learner kit, it does have some cool features and is a good budget buy. I'd like to upgrade the speakers and rcv in the future. Right now I'm running 4 12" 3-way cerwins and a matching center (v-series), I also have two wharfedale *" 2-ways I can throw in for 7.1. I think the 650 is more than adequate for these speakers, I know their breaking points when the music seems like it will burst the speakers, I don't often have the levels high enough to do that but every now and then I know levels or volume must go down or speaker's gonna have a serious problem. I just turn it down real quick. What I'm saying is that this reciever is quite powerful enough, enough to dAMAGE my speakers by overpowering them. But that's not the issue, the issue is that the more power the better it sounds images and the like so yes I wish I had have gotten a better one, although this is quite a kick *** machine, but like the bigger amps are better. Anyways, I'm just going to have fun with this one until a couple years down the road then I''m going to get a better one, I'm actually looking for a 9.1 or more reciever so I could have a ****load of speakers like the movie theatre does. I love the big theatre sound and I don't like the little vip rooms it's more like a home theatre setup, it doesn't take enough control. The big theatres take full charge with authority. Anyways, I'm glad I'm kind of stuck with this one(5760/650) for the price it's pretty adquate, it'll help me learn more too so I'll know what I'm doing when I get a better one. Happy home theatre and listening.

 

[NetGeek]

The 1014 is very nice but....

I think I'd like to go with the pioneer, it weighs as much as a rxv2500 and the power figures are similar to that of an rxv1500. Between the two I see the pioneer as better for movies and music due to it's huge amps. What I'd like to do seeing as how I can't buy credit card and am forced to choose yamaha because the big chains don't carry that make of pioneer is try to beef up to a yamaha htr5790, which is more of a match to the pioneer. It weighs 15.5kg and has 110w 20-20000htz at .04thd. Very similar to the pioneer's figures. I'd say the pioneer has the 650 beat and is more likely to be compared to the htr5790,rxv1500, or rxv2500, all of which weigh the same but boast 110w, 120w, and 130w power differnences respectively. I'm going to try and get either the pioneer or the htr5790, where's that warranty? Anyways I'll let you guys know if I suceed. I could settle for the rxv650 but I like the bigger power sources, especially for 7.1, it's got to stress a smaller amp like the 650 a lot more than those others mentioned. Another idea is to upgrade with exterrnal amps, I'll either try to change it or upgrade later with external amps.

You cannot compare it to the Yamaha 1500 and most definitely not the 2500. I had a 1014 and now have a 1500, I could not tell any noticeable difference in how they sounded. The Yamaha has a much more extensive configuration menu then the 1014 which has a very basic on-screen setup menu. The Yamaha allows much more control & tweaking over your system than the Pioneer, but the 1014 is much easier to setup. The 1500 has twice the amount of digital inputs than the 1014 and has a true second zone. I found the automatic setup function on both the Yamaha and the Pioneer to be very accurate.

I took back my Pioneer 1014 because of a video out problem that turned out to be a bad cable - brand new cables are ALWAYS good right - WRONG! I bought the 1500 from an "Unauthorized" Webstore for $36 more than what I paid for the Pioneer 1014 at BestBuy, which was on sale at the time for $450. Factory Warranty is not that important to me, I have had a lot of electronics over the last 20 years and have NEVER had one fail; I did loose a VCR & modem to lightning years ago but never have I had a component or TV have a single problem that would have been covered by a warranty.

I am not taking anything away from the Pioneer, it's a damm good receiver and for the price probably the best in its class, but it is not equal to the Yamaha 1500 or 2500 in regards to the features it has.

 

[scarecrow]

You know what, I shouldn't even be writing about this stuff, I'm such a beginner. A lot of it is preference, so for me to come to conclusions or bring up my opinions, it's just my opinions, and they change a lot over time too. For me, I'd personally like to have a more expensive model, but that's where the fun of upgrading starts, it's a good project. I think the main thing is that someone is happy with their reciever, and I haven't listened to a heck of a lot of them so I'm about the last person who should be writing about this. Anyways, happy tunes and shows.