Ubid has a Kenwood receiver blowout going on. This one may be good for that second system or beginner's/budget conscious system. Anyone in the market for a really inexpensive 6.1 surround receiver with all the formats....give this a look-see...109 bucks! -------> http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=10486865&refLoc=searchone