Bridge Collapse in Baltimore

Swerd

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This has been all over today’s news.

https://apple.news/A9nwkLAHcT8Slf6BEKqA70A

Last night, a large container ship collided with a major bridge over Baltimore Harbor. It brought the bridge down. The entire event was captured on video. See the link. The video is both spectacular and shocking.

The ship is huge compared to the bridge. It’s 984 feet long and 157 feet wide. And has the capacity to hold 10,000 containers. I don’t know how heavy that is, but it’s clearly not light.

On video, the ship had two power failures shortly before the collision. News reports say they dropped the anchor and tried to reverse the screws. The crew made a Mayday call.

The bridge is part of I-695 that surrounds Baltimore. It will probably take years to replace it. The entire port of Baltimore is closed until the wreckage is cleared. I don’t know how long that will take, but it could be months.
 
Swerd

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The mayday call from the ship, probably saved lives. it allowed the bridge Authority to close it and limit the number of cars lost to six or seven. There was also a repair crew on the bridge fixing potholes in the pavement.
 
Eppie

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Wow, that was incredible footage and fortuitous that they managed to close off the bridge. This could have a serious long range impact on NA shipping.
 
BoredSysAdmin

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I expect shipping delays due to port blocking would be MASSIVE, which is a massive understatement.
To quote interstellar:
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lovinthehd

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This has been all over today’s news.

https://apple.news/A9nwkLAHcT8Slf6BEKqA70A

Last night, a large container ship collided with a major bridge over Baltimore Harbor. It brought the bridge down. The entire event was captured on video. See the link. The video is both spectacular and shocking.

The ship is huge compared to the bridge. It’s 984 feet long and 157 feet wide. And has the capacity to hold 10,000 containers. I don’t know how heavy that is, but it’s clearly not light.

On video, the ship had two power failures shortly before the collision. News reports say they dropped the anchor and tried to reverse the screws. The crew made a Mayday call.

The bridge is part of I-695 that surrounds Baltimore. It will probably take years to replace it. The entire port of Baltimore is closed until the wreckage is cleared. I don’t know how long that will take, but it could be months.
In one report 100,000 tons was mentioned...I'd think not including cargo
 
Swerd

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I expect shipping delays due to port blocking would be MASSIVE, which is a massive understatement.
To quote interstellar:
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The port is about the ~9th to 11th largest US port, depending on how you measure things. That doesn’t seem too bad if it’s closed for a while … until you see it in numbers. Below are info from Wikipedia.

Currently, the port has major ro-ro (roll-on roll-off) facilities and bulk facilities, especially steel handling. The port handles around 700,000 imported & exported vehicles annually.

In 2012, the port handled 36.7 million tons in foreign commerce (imports and exports), valued at $53.9 billion. The Port of Baltimore ranked 11th of 36 US ports in handling foreign tonnage and 9th in dollar value of the cargo handled during 2012.

Closing it will be major!
 
lovinthehd

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. The port is about the ~9th to 11th largest US port, depending on how you measure things. That doesn’t seem too bad if it’s closed for a while … until you see it in numbers. Below are info from Wikipedia.

Currently, the port has major ro-ro (roll-on roll-off) facilities and bulk facilities, especially steel handling. The port handles around 700,000 imported & exported vehicles annually.

In 2012, the port handled 36.7 million tons in foreign commerce (imports and exports), valued at $53.9 billion. The Port of Baltimore ranked 11th of 36 US ports in handling foreign tonnage and 9th in dollar value of the cargo handled during 2012.

Closing it will be major!
Plus one reporter mentioned that this bridge sees 14 million vehicles a year. It does make me wonder why that bridge had such unprotected pylons. A few years ago I remember the San Francisco Bay Bridge was hit by a ship but fortunately had a sufficient protection/fender system offering ship strike protection around the support.
 
Swerd

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In one report 100,000 tons was mentioned...I'd think not including cargo
91,128 gross tons
52,150 net tons
116,851 deadweight tons

It can carry 9,971 twenty foot containers.

I have no idea what all those terms mean … but that is one big ship. That bridge didn’t stand a chance.
 
Swerd

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Plus one reporter mentioned that this bridge sees 14 million vehicles a year. It does make me wonder why that bridge had such unprotected pylons. A few years ago I remember the San Francisco Bay Bridge was hit by a ship but fortunately had a sufficient protection/fender system offering ship strike protection around the support.
Was that ship in SF Bay as big? The MV Dali is a “Neopanamax” sized ship.
 
Swerd

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In that link are a few photos of the former Francis Scott Key Bridge. The ship hit one of those two central support pylons.

It was designed in the late 1960s & built 1972-77. Those main support pylons may have supported the bridge and all its traffic, but was clearly not protected from a huge ship ramming it.
 
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Swerd

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Was that bridge in SF Bay the Bay Bridge or the Golden Gate? The US Navy used to have a big base at Oakland/Alameda. There must have been plenty of federal money available to build those bridges sturdier than in Baltimore.
 
lovinthehd

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Was that bridge in SF Bay the Bay Bridge or the Golden Gate? The US Navy used to have a big base at Oakland/Alameda. There must have been plenty of federal money available to build those bridges sturdier than in Baltimore.
That was the Bay Bridge it hit. Don't know why both have pretty good skirts around supports....type of bridge contruction overall? Money?
 
TLS Guy

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Seriously, I have no life.
This has been all over today’s news.

https://apple.news/A9nwkLAHcT8Slf6BEKqA70A

Last night, a large container ship collided with a major bridge over Baltimore Harbor. It brought the bridge down. The entire event was captured on video. See the link. The video is both spectacular and shocking.

The ship is huge compared to the bridge. It’s 984 feet long and 157 feet wide. And has the capacity to hold 10,000 containers. I don’t know how heavy that is, but it’s clearly not light.

On video, the ship had two power failures shortly before the collision. News reports say they dropped the anchor and tried to reverse the screws. The crew made a Mayday call.

The bridge is part of I-695 that surrounds Baltimore. It will probably take years to replace it. The entire port of Baltimore is closed until the wreckage is cleared. I don’t know how long that will take, but it could be months.
Swerd there are just so many things wrong here.

First the bridge should never have been designed like that to allow for that type of catastrophic failure. The bridge was built in 1977, and that design would not be allowed now. So that bridge should have already been replaced on that account. Next the bridge should allow for ships and their tugs to stay attached until past the last bridge to the sea. The tugs had just left that ship before it went into the bridge.

Now the ship. These huge ships have electric propulsion. A large diesel engine drives a generator, which drives the electric motor turning the propeller. There is one engine per propeller, but nearly all these mammoth container ships are single screw. In my view they should not be, but be two screw at least.

Now I know in times past, you had to have separate motors for generating power for the driving motor and power for the boat. I have found out that this has now gone by the wayside, and these mammoth ships only have one engine as a rule. That needs to change pronto.

Now I can see the cause of this. The escort tugs had to detach, because they could not go under the bridge with the ship.

Shortly after the tugs cast off, there is huge black smoke from the exhaust, and the lights go out. The smoke stops and then the lights come on briefly with even more black smoke.

So, I can put this together. Only one thing will make an engine produce that enormous quantity of black smoke and that is a hole in the top of one of the pistons.

So then engine shut down as it should with this catastrophic failure, but because of their situation the crew over rode the shut down. The power came back briefly, but the damaged piston shattered and locked then engine up, and made the catastrophe inevitable.

In future bridges should not be able to collapse like that catastrophically. They should be wide enough in each span that these ships can pass with tugs either side, until past the last bridge before the sea.

Ships should NEVER get their power from the same engine that powers the propeller. That alone would likely have prevented this.

As is usual practice the ship was likely going to sea on the ebb tide. Any boat going with the ebb tide will be uncontrollable in that situation, but have some control going into the flood tide, if it does not loose steering. This ship obviously lost propulsion and steerage.

Here is a video that explains how the event unfolded in greater detail.

 
davidscott

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What a horrible experience Driving on a bridge and suddenly dropped into the freezing water while in your vehicle. Truly terrifying. RIP to any lost souls. And best wishes to any survivors.
 
Swerd

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A couple of points have emerged to help clarify things.
So, I can put this together. Only one thing will make an engine produce that enormous quantity of black smoke and that is a hole in the top of one of the pistons.

So then engine shut down as it should with this catastrophic failure, but because of their situation the crew over rode the shut down. The power came back briefly, but the damaged piston shattered and locked then engine up, and made the catastrophe inevitable.

Ships should NEVER get their power from the same engine that powers the propeller. That alone would likely have prevented this.
The ship had two diesel engines. A large one generated electric power to drive the single propeller as well as providing electric power for steering and other needs on the ship. A second smaller auxiliary diesel engine was available to provide electric power for steering and other uses if the main engine/generator failed.

The Mayday call came by radio after the ship lost power. Was that done by a battery powered hand-held radio, or had the auxiliary diesel electric come online?

It is possible that the two emissions of smoke could be explained 1) by failure of main engine, and 2) by the auxiliary engine as it started. The investigation will probably clear that up.
First the bridge should never have been designed like that to allow for that type of catastrophic failure. The bridge was built in 1977, and that design would not be allowed now. So that bridge should have already been replaced on that account.

Next the bridge should allow for ships and their tugs to stay attached until past the last bridge to the sea. The tugs had just left that ship before it went into the bridge.
The collapsed bridge was a continuous truss design that was in use when the Key Bridge was designed in the late 1960s. When built with a 1,200 foot span, it was the third longest continuous truss bridge in the world. It had 4 traffic lanes, and was strong enough for anticipated use when designed, as well as recently.

That continuous truss design is no longer built anywhere. It seems cable-stayed bridges of similar length are now commonly used instead. I'm not sure why, but it's probably cost. It is said that cable-stayed bridges are optimal for spans longer than steel truss/cantilever bridges, but shorter than suspension bridges. They have replaced older steel truss/cantilever bridges, and are favored for new construction in that span range. For longer spans, the previously used steel truss/cantilever bridges become too heavy and more costly, while the cabling for suspension bridges would be more costly.

Cargo vessels in the late 60s and early 70s were about one third the size and weight of those presently used. A 1,200 foot span was adequate by the design standards of the time.

Just why the two main support pylons were placed 1,200 feet apart is not clear. The shipping channel depth was about 50 feet, and about 30 feet at the support pylons. Perhaps the shallow water at the river's edges was enough to prevent large ships from entering.

Obviously, a new bridge will have a longer span, as well as providing more than 4 lanes for traffic. The support pylons will have to be at the river's shore or close enough to the shore to prevent large ships from hitting them. It will probably be a cable-stayed design.

I don't think protective cut-waters can be built large enough to protect the support pylons from 100,000 ton ships. It may be possible, but only at a prohibitive cost.

A more expensive alternative would be a tunnel. At the time the Key Bridge was built, it was the only way trucks carrying hazardous materials, such as gasoline, could cross the Patapsco River. Two tunnels exist further up river, closer to Baltimore, but hazardous cargoes are prohibited in them. For that reason only a bridge was chosen.
 
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Eppie

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If you look at the new Gordie Howe Bridge crossing the Detroit River, the support pylons were able to be placed on the shore so there is no chance of any ship ever colliding with them. On some spans the pylons are placed in shallow water which acts as a natural barrier. Sometimes barriers are constructed under water as a buffer zone like the SF bridge. Looks like those measures were not an option or not consider for this bridge.
https://www.gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/en/gallery
 
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