Book Shelfs vs. Tower Speakers

JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
It comes down to a personal choice and budget......and the build difference between a pair of towers and equivalent price wise bookshelves isn't as great as its made out to be in these threads. The bookshelves maybe a little more rigid but are the differences that great to color the sounds of towers that much? I don't think so.
In my experience yes. I first strongly noticed it years ago comparing the v3 Studio 20 and studio 60. Even between the 20 and 40 there's some loss of "crispness".

But everyone's tastes are unique. A machine can qantify this problem, but only a person can qualify it and decide what they want.

The one advantage towers have over their bookshelf brethren is power handling ability. Towers will play louder and will not compress nearly as quick as bookshelf speakers.
Compared to bookshelves mated with subs that's simply not true.

The other is cost. If one has ear marked a certian budget for speakers be it toers or bookshelves) the bookshelf venue will cost you more; speaker stands + sub (or two)
That may or may not be true: A Paradgim Studio S2 pair is aroung $2200, an S8 pair is around $5500. That's $3200 to spend on subs and break even.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Theory vs Application

...and the build difference between a pair of towers and equivalent price wise bookshelves isn't as great as its made out to be in these threads. The bookshelves maybe a little more rigid but are the differences that great to color the sounds of towers that much? I don't think so.
I think we have THEORY vs. APPLICATION.:D

Just like some people say that 1080p looks better than 1080i or that 1080p looks better than 720p, etc.

Some people say that more cabinet "resonance" = less sound quality.

Then there's the debate on the actual degree or LEVEL of resonance.

Most of us here think of the B&W 802D as having probably the best cabinet - almost total lack of resonance on the SPEC Measurement sheet.

But other ultra-expensive speakers including the Revel Ultima2 tower speakers have quite a bit of resonance in their cabinets.

The main thing is how they actually sound to the owner of the speakers. If they make no difference in real-life application to the listener or owner, then it's a mute point - just another item on the SPEC sheet.

That is why we all agree that the owner has to buy the speakers (be it bookshelf or towers) that sound the BEST to him or her.:D
 
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tcarcio

Audioholic General
My issue is less with your taste in sound, an more with your generalization. You've generalized what bookshelves sound like, and what towers sound like and done it in a way that I don't find very accruate.

Yes. A tower with generally go lower at SPL than a given bookshelf of comparable build. That's why I've recommended dual subs.

With the sub set within a half-wavelength of the bookshelf, properly crossed, they act as a single speaker; but because the woofer is completely decoupled from the enlcosure of the mid and tweeter, you have reduced the resonance problems in upper frequencies. The subwoofer doesn't generate those frequencies, and the bookshelf is less resonant than the comparable tower because of a higher relative stiffness.

Of course anyone's personal preference for sound may vary: you may like to put on a tube amp and drive it to distortion; but what is very interesting to me is that you've already decided that one speaker you've never heard is better (to your ear) than any of another group of speakers you've never heard, and I cannot find the basis for that belief.

All that said: your advice "listen and decide what you like" is very true.

*edit* again, I'm not traying to disagree with your statement of what you like. I own several sets of towers myseld (Paradugm Studio 60s, at least until I sell them), a pair of infinities, and a pair of almost-complete custom re-builds. One nice thing is that the work of integrating HF and LF was already done for you by the manufacturer.
Understood. I will end it with this. Every set of speakers I have owned, and that includes bookshelfs in which I still own a pair of Polk rt 25's, The towers have alway's sounded better to me.
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
Understood. I will end it with this. Every set of speakers I have owned, and that includes bookshelfs in which I still own a pair of Polk rt 25's, The towers have alway's sounded better to me.
That's fair. And the OP may indeed also find towers he likes more than the bookshelves he's otherwise considering. Your experience is valid and useful.

It would be a fun challenge to see if I could get a setup that would change your mind. Don't suppose you are 'round my area?
 
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Surroundpro

Enthusiast
could be a good choice

If your in the market I have a pair of Paradigm studio 100's like new with less than 5 hrs listening time on them , in the original boxes...... just thought Id throw that out there
 
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tcarcio

Audioholic General
That's fair. And the OP may indeed also find towers he likes more than the bookshelves he's otherwise considering. Your experience is valid and useful.

It would be a fun challenge to see if I could get a setup that would change your mind. Don't suppose you are 'round my area?
That would be fun but I am up in Mass getting ready to shovel some snow. I appreciate the offer though, Thanks.:cool:
 
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