What format will win the high def war?

  • Blu-Ray

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • HD-DVD

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .
Gimpy Ric

Gimpy Ric

Moderator
What do you prefer, and who will win the high def war?
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
My vote goes to Blu-ray, because it is technically better and has more studio support (more variety in titles).:)
 
avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
While quality wise the two formats are basically the same I think blu-ray will win for a few reasons:

1) The ps3 its getting blu-ray in tons of homes that wouldn't otherwise have a HD format available.
2) Upcoming price cuts on blu-ray players
3) More studio support
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
i think there was already a poll like this here...
anyway, I vote blu-ray because I'm already commited :)

reason:
I can live without Universal, but not without Sony Pictures
 
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Tex-amp

Senior Audioholic
Whoever breaks the $200 mark first.

Actually, I see this could end up being Beta v. VHS long. If Chinese made sub $200 HD-DVD players make the shelves by the holidays and Blu-ray cuts prices to compete then owning both would be affordable. Which really wasn't the case with Beta and VHS.

My Oppo died last week. It would cost me about $20 more than the Oppo 981 to buy a Toshiba HD-A2 off Amazon that comes with 5 movies. Since, most stuff I read about Oppo v HD-A2 has either one or the other just edging the other out for upconverting I'm going to consider them equal at it. If the HD-A2 is equal at upconverting why shouldn't I spend the extra $20 for HD-DVD capability(and 5 movies)?
 
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jvm051

Audioholic Intern
How bout neither. I have a PS3 and currently about 30 movies, but most people don't want to deal with a format war. I think that Blu-Ray will eventualy be left, but by that time, online downloading will make Blu-Ray a dinosuar. If there would have only been one format from the start, I think it would be in more homes by now. Pricing may have come down a bit faster, due to the 2 formats, but take a look at televisions and how quick they have gone down in price. More compainies battling for your money.
 
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Reorx

Full Audioholic
In my eye's.
The studio support is the only thing that's keeping blu ray alive. And that may change because of the EU.
It's over priced in mastering the disk's, manufacturing the disk's, as well as their players.

As for being technically better? well..that's debatable. Better security yes.

If I had to choose a player today, this instant, with money not being an issue. It'd be Blu ray. Just because there are more movie studio's supporting it, and more movies available.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
If you do a search, there are at least 3 or 4 polls and a dozen threads on this already.
 
Jey Jockey

Jey Jockey

Junior Audioholic
More studio support? Perhaps in numbers, have you actually looked at exclusive BD titles? There are only 3 that i would buy. For my tastes, HD DVD offers more films which I am interested in plus it was way cheaper and looks and sounds amazing on my 96" screen.:D thats all I care about.
 
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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
I have no preference. I have both. This is not like SACD and DVD audio. People in general don't give a hoot about good sound. The most popular thing is MP3, after all. But they do care about HD TV and, at some point, everyone will have it.

Blu-Ray will likely win the war if, in fact, there is a winner - mostly likely because of the PS3.
 
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tdamocles

Junior Audioholic
This is the way I see it.....In the last few years prices have fallen for HD tv sets and more people are buying them because of it....This forum is basically for enthusiasts and one may say more storage, blah, blah, blah for blu-ray but I think price may win. I think the general public could give a rats arse about more storage and other slight advantages of blu-ray. I think as long as it holds a movie and displays 1080p people will be happy if it is cheaper. Blu-ray = betamax. I vote HD-dvd even though blu-ray seems to be a better rat trap..
 
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avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
This is the way I see it.....In the last few years prices have fallen for HD tv sets and more people are buying them because of it....This forum is basically for enthusiasts and one may say more storage, blah, blah, blah for blu-ray but I think price may win. I think the general public could give a rats arse about more storage and other slight advantages of blu-ray. I think as long as it holds a movie and displays 1080p people will be happy if it is cheaper. Blu-ray = betamax. I vote HD-dvd even though blu-ray seems to be a better rat trap..
You miss one point. Storage isn't what people are saying is going to win is for BD its the fact that BD actually has studios putting out movies while HD doesn't have as much support.
 
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tdamocles

Junior Audioholic
Not missing the point.....My wallet is in alignment with a $200-$300 less unit......hd-dvd. I'm keeping one eye open...
 
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BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
1. Price won't win the war.

There is fairly solid reason to believe that Toshiba is subsidizing their players right now or at best, breaking even. They just want market share, and while this may not matter to anyone who is purchasing, it is most definitely a sign of a company that is praying for market share and royalties from disc sales to make up for player losses. The real world downside is that there isn't one additional consumer electronics manufacturer who has been willing to step up to the plate and make one stand alone HD DVD player other than Toshiba.

What does this have to do with price? Well, it means a couple of things - it means that HD DVD pricing is artificially low. It also means that while some may claim HD DVD pricing will always be less, at some point it is far more likely that Toshiba will actually want/need to make a profit on players. Since HD DVD and Blu-ray use very similar technologies, and Blu-ray has actually seen a higher price drop rate since player inception, it is more likely that Blu-ray and HD DVD will be priced within about $20.00 of each other within a couple of years.

2. Studio support matters a great deal

Within a couple of years, with pricing likely to be nearly equal, suddenly every article and magazine, and news story will be telling people to buy Blu-ray. Heck, many already are going that route. But, it won't be just a bunch of Internet chatter about this, it will be the general newspapers and on the radio. It will be the word: Blu-ray delivers studio support that HD DVD can't match.

Of course, that's based on studio support remaining the way it is now and Fox and Disney ramping up production.

3. Blu-ray won't win on technology, they will win on actual CE and studio support. It won't be one $120 player out there, it will be Denon, Pioneer, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, etc. all with their own $120 player, and then Toshiba, and only Toshiba with their $100 player. You don't gain market share when you are $20 less expensive and your lineup of competitors includes a list of the absolute top names in consumer electronics, while you are only capable of delivering about 50% of what Hollywood actually has to offer.

In my opinion, HD DVD simply has no chance, they are far to weak of an entity to survive long term. Universal going neutral would be devestating to the format. Microsoft seems (to me) to be far more interested in developing their X-Box 360 in a manner that allows for HD downloads directly to PCs, Vista, and the 360. They don't really care about HD DVD, but more likely care about their codecs, the menu system, the level of acceptability for their codec. No, the format war may go on beyond this year, but I have little doubt that Blu-ray will come out on top.

The next format war - between Blu-ray and DVD... that one is still definitely up in the air.
 
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tdamocles

Junior Audioholic
Let time prove me wrong....My upconverting dvd player is doing just fine right now.
 
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Tex-amp

Senior Audioholic
I've been reading a good bit on HDM players. The supporters of the two formats are crazy. HDM sales for both formats combined are 1% of the market. So Blu-ray's 2/3 and HD DVD's 1/3 of nothing is still nothing. Noone can tell me the market percentages of the HDM new release titles are on standard DVD to compare the 2 and see where the different HDM formats really stand. Meaning I want to know if the Blu-ray exclusive studios new releases are selling 66% and HD DVD selling 33% of standard DVDs too?

Robert Zohn at Value Electronics said there will be HD DVD players from other CE companies in the 4th quarter.

Thank goodness my Oppo was covered under warranty.
 
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