Blowing the circuit

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mactep76

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Blowing out the brand new Onkyo reciever(please see 6th post in thread)

Why am blowing the circuit when connecting my Plazma with HDMI to a reciever and then HDMI out from the reciever through a DVI adopter to a cable box. it's a simple setup so should work. just unpacked the whole system and very frustrated trying to get it setup. please help.
thanks
 
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zildjian

zildjian

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You're blowing which circuit? Your house elecrical circuit to that room, or blowing the fuse in your receiver or what? Unless you have electric heaters or something going on that circuit, this should not at all be the case. Your receiver, tv & cable box shouldn't be so much of a load to trip the breaker. Trouble shoot the setup, try connecting one component to electricity via a different circuit, even if you have to use a long extension cord coming from the kitchen for example, then see if whatever result you have been getting still happens. Either something isn't wired correctly, there's an internal problem with the power supply in one of your components, or you must be running too many electronics off that particular circuit. You can add up the amperage requirements found on the back of each components, see if they add up to less than 15A (this is your circuit is probably rated at).
 
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JKL1960

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Maybe you just said it wrong but the HDMI out from your receiver should go straight to the display not the cable box. The cable box should be input into the reciver for HDMI switching (which may not work).

If everything is hooked up correctly and you are tripping a circuit breaker then like the above said add up the power requirements. The equipment will list watts, add them up and divide by your supply voltage (probably 120) and if the number is greater than 12 you might have found the problem. (I say 12 because the breaker trips at 15 and 80% load is enough on a single circuit.)

Does it trip when stuff is turned on? If it does you should be able to find the offending device with a little patient testing.

Even hooking things up wrong shouldn't trip a breaker it usually just won't work. Have you pulled out the outlet and checked it. Maybe the breaker is weak?

I'm guessing now.:D
 
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mactep76

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Big spark actually happens when connecting the DVI/HDMI adopter to a cable box and/or connecting the antenna to a cable box.
 
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JKL1960

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mactep76 said:
Big spark actually happens when connecting the DVI/HDMI adopter to a cable box and/or connecting the antenna to a cable box.
Well that can't be good.:eek:

I suspect you might need an electrician. It could be a wierd grounding problem. (Wild guess.)

Have you hooked it up somewhere else in the house?
 
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mactep76

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Too late for the electrician at this point, although i will eventually need one! i learned it a hard way.. i'm too depressed to speak..just blew up a brand new Onkyo reciever. here is how it happened: i hooked a component 1 video from cable box to the reciever(reciever was not even plugged in to the electrical outlet) and when i tried to hook up the antenna to the cable box(which was not plugged in to electrical outlet either) a mini explosion happened blowing out my Onkyo reciever. Now the reciever does not even turn on..it was obviously the antenna. Do you think Onkyo will be willing to exchange my reciever.. what if i tell them this is how it came in from the store? i haven't even completely took it out of the packaging..
 
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mactep76

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Onkyo receiver explosion

Too late for the electrician at this point, although i will eventually need one! i learned it a hard way.. i'm too depressed to speak..just blew up a brand new Onkyo reciever. here is how it happened: i hooked a component 1 video from cable box to the reciever(reciever was not even plugged in to the electrical outlet) and when i tried to hook up the antenna to the cable box(which was not plugged in to electrical outlet either) a mini explosion happened blowing out my Onkyo reciever. Now the reciever does not even turn on..it was obviously the antenna. Do you think Onkyo will be willing to exchange my reciever.. what if i tell them this is how it came in from the store? i haven't even completely took it out of the packaging..
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

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mactep76 said:
Too late for the electrician at this point, although i will eventually need one! i learned it a hard way.. i'm too depressed to speak..just blew up a brand new Onkyo reciever. here is how it happened: i hooked a component 1 video from cable box to the reciever(reciever was not even plugged in to the electrical outlet) and when i tried to hook up the antenna to the cable box(which was not plugged in to electrical outlet either) a mini explosion happened blowing out my Onkyo reciever. Now the reciever does not even turn on..it was obviously the antenna. Do you think Onkyo will be willing to exchange my reciever.. what if i tell them this is how it came in from the store? i haven't even completely took it out of the packaging..
Just tell them it won't turn on. Don't go into details. If it's under warranty, let them worry about it. You can tell them there were no electrical storms and that it's only x days old to rule out lightening. The unit shouldn't have sparked simply from connecting an antenna.
 
Resident Loser

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Hmmmm...

...if nothing was connected to the mains, from whence came the juice?

jimHJJ(...one heck of a case of static electricity...)
 
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mactep76

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Resident Loser said:
...if nothing was connected to the mains, from whence came the juice?

jimHJJ(...one heck of a case of static electricity...)
the only thing that was connected to a reciever was the component cable from the cable box...the spark occured when connecting the antenna to the cable box..NOTHING else was connected anywhere. Nothing was connected to any power outlets. the juice came from the antenna.
 
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mtrycrafts

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mactep76 said:
Too late for the electrician at this point, although i will eventually need one! i learned it a hard way.. i'm too depressed to speak..just blew up a brand new Onkyo reciever. here is how it happened: i hooked a component 1 video from cable box to the reciever(reciever was not even plugged in to the electrical outlet) and when i tried to hook up the antenna to the cable box(which was not plugged in to electrical outlet either) a mini explosion happened blowing out my Onkyo reciever. Now the reciever does not even turn on..it was obviously the antenna. Do you think Onkyo will be willing to exchange my reciever.. what if i tell them this is how it came in from the store? i haven't even completely took it out of the packaging..

I would try to trace the issue to the antenna. If installed by the cable company, they pay big time. Seems like they have a 120 leak to the video signal in.:(

Don't lie to Onkyo. Perhaps home owner's insurance?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Resident Loser said:
...if nothing was connected to the mains, from whence came the juice?

jimHJJ(...one heck of a case of static electricity...)

How about a poor job on the cable TV install? 120 hot on the input video?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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mactep76 said:
the juice came from the antenna.

Hence the liability of whoever installed the antenna. It have to have had 120V on it. A grounding issue on the whole house?
 
Resident Loser

Resident Loser

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You may...

mactep76 said:
the only thing that was connected to a reciever was the component cable from the cable box...the spark occured when connecting the antenna to the cable box..NOTHING else was connected anywhere. Nothing was connected to any power outlets. the juice came from the antenna.
...really want to have qualified service personnel check that wiring...Generally, an antenna is a passive (non-powered) device...there may be some foreign voltage lurking which can harm not only your electronics...

jimHJJ(...might be a faulty or improper ground coming in contact with that FEMF...)
 
Resident Loser

Resident Loser

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Hey guy...

mtrycrafts said:
Hence the liability of whoever installed the antenna. It have to have had 120V on it. A grounding issue on the whole house?
...how was your Thanksgiving?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, path of least resistance and all that...

jimHJJ(...big, fat, feature-laden reciever becomes atmospheric grounding point and...pooof!...ozone for all...)
 
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JKL1960

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I'm a little confused with the term antennae. Are you talking about an actual off air antennae or simply your cable source?

Either way something is very wrong to cause that problem. If it isn't an antennae and regular cable service I'd be calling the cable company right away.

Like evreyone else I wonder where that voltage came from. Wierd.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Resident Loser said:
...how was your Thanksgiving?
Pretty good. Went to Phoenix, family get together. Went to Grand Canyon. Cool and windy, brrr. Forgot it was 7300ft altitude there:eek:
 

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