Best Towers for Hip-hop/Rap?

[MatthewB.]

GZA, I understand that and agree it has been around along time, but with the widespread "acceptance" of rap and thuglife tendancies, that it has helped to contribute to a problem. I'm not saying it's the only cause because it's not, but when a kid sees his hero, talking about putting a cap in somebodys arse and that you need to take before it gets taken, then these kids (not all mind you) start to believe this stuff. I recall a time in the 70;s when life was more peacful, you didn't need to lock your doors and school violence was two kids getting into fistfights (and more than likely becoming friends afterwards). now kids from good homes feel the need to act gangsta to be tough and get respect. Violent movies, games and yes music all help to shape a child (even those from good homes) I never heard of a kid getting all thuggish from Barry Manilow or Seals and Crofts. Look at Madonna when she first arrived and all those girls who dressed and acted like her. Now we have kids acting like thugs because their hero tells them it's okay to strap on your nine and take what you want.

 

[MatthewB.]

Part 2 (sorry my work computer can't transmit too much info)

I have heard kids as young as 4 talk about getting a gun and killing some bully on the school ground (true story 4 year old talking like this and his mother could care less) And ys he was dressed in gangsta clothing. Todays youth are heavily influenced by rap artists and what they say, and I agree not all rap is bad. I am just concerned about the ones who project that a violent lifestyle is the way to happiness and success. We now have metal detectors in schools, kids shooting kids over petty stuff (and this from kids from good homes) Look at Colombine and how Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were influenced by violent movies and violent games. So in their minds shooting up their schools was a viable solution. I just wish some (not all) rap was banned. I also wish more parents took an active role in what their kids were doing and were "parents" instead of trying to be their kids "best friend".

 

[MatthewB.]

Part 3 (i know, I know)

Look at the thread about the accidental Bart shooting. Everyone is blaming the officer who accidently shot an african american man and now he is being crucified, yet no one is saying that this thug (which is what he was) put his own life in his own hands. He's the one who assualted passengers on a train (while on probation for theft, drug trafficing and assualt with a dealdly weapon). No one mentions the crowd of people taunting the police (escalating the situation) and throwing stuff at the officers or the fact that this thug tried to get up to flee. What the media is saying is that this racist officer shot an unarmed black man. Even though the video shows it was an accident. Media is a strong influence on opinions and hence why I feel rap music contibutes to the youth of America getting worse and worse. Again my opinion and mine alone. But it's how I feel.

 

[GZA]

i see kids at my old school who are ready to shoot the place up. i am more worried about them then a black rap music fan. society as a whole is messed up. you got the government killing people, oil companies running the world. war by countries that dont even have hip hop. you need to look at a persons living conditions before you judge. i went through a point in my life where i didnt have food or the basics and i could see how people in similar conditions would be willing to rob and kill. i listen to lots of hip hop and the only time i hear the word ho or ***** is when they are saying dont call women those words. the mainstream hip hop is bad for the youth im not going to lie but you cant categorize it all together. that you be like me saying i dont like metallica so therefore the whole genre of metal is crap. it doesnt make since. you can never judge a form of music by the stuff of tv because we all know the record companies are just putting it out because it well sell not because they have talent.

 

[mike c]

to answer the OP...
ideal setups in order of priority for heavy bass songs:
1) towers + sub
2) bookshelves + sub
3) towers (would be last priority)

i like rap songs. i don't like the gangsters who sing them, but i still enjoy the songs.
it's too bad people emulate them, but i've never felt the urge to pop a cap on somebody because i listened to these songs.

 

[MatthewB.]

GZA, you bring up an excellant point, I shoudln't blame all of rap for the few artists who do give it a bad name. It just seems to me that the youth I deal with on a daily basis are the ones who listen to the bad rap artists and just don't give a crap about you, me or anyone else for that matter. Maybe that's why I am so biased against rap in general. (sigh)

You know after typing all this, I have just realized I have turned into my father.

Mike your right, we're getting way off topic, I feel any system with powerful subwoofers will do rap proud because of the heavy bass, so bookshelves with a sub will work or powered towers.

 

[GZA]

i just want to say one last thing on the subject. the kids who listen to the better rap look and act like anyone else. you cant tell them apart we look like regular kids, not long shirts or baggy pants. we finished school and have respectable jobs. because of where you are and the people you deal with you see the people who represent the other side. if you say gangster rap or mainstream rap is crap and garbage i dont have a problem with that i jsut dont like seeing it all categorized together. thats why we have good rappers that dont make it because everyone automatically thinks they are thug or gangster. rappers during the 80s had to fight and earn the right to be artists. now any idiot off the street came make an album about killing people and they well market it

 

[mike c]

i on the other hand don't really care what they sing about ... i don't limit myself to "clean" rap. i base my choices on the beat/melody.
(and how hard they make my subwoofers work)

 

[sparky77]

Come on people's, this thread is not about what is the proper music to listen to, this thread was about the most appropriate speakers for the music that is listened to, and while I suggested the CV's, I had at the same time forgotten about the deftechs. To the OP, I would probably have to suggest either of the systems, both have there merits and downfalls. The CV's do have some merit of efficiency, with decent low end response, especially if you go for the dual woofer models, although price may become a concern.

If the rest of you want to argue about music, that's what the steam vent is for......

 

[chris6878]

Sorry Nemo, I was talking about the poster who claimed my post was the most ignorant post of the year. Sorry for the confusion. I never resort to calling members ignorant or stupid based on what they say. I feel on a public forum we all learn from everyones point of view.

I hate rap and hip-hop with a passion, so the only speakers I feel are worthy to play that music on is either Bose or white van speakers. But if you insist on playing music that glorifies thug life, spousal abuse and "jackin fools up" I also would give thumbs up to the DefTech powered towers.

ignorant

a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>

I didnt call you stupid but that post lacked knowledge. First off hip hop and rap are different. Black eyed peas is hip hop. Eazy e or 50 cent is Rap (gangsta rap). You said you hate it all because of what it glorifies. Never heard black eyed peas, missy elliot or Common( aka common sense) glorify that type of lifestyle. You just made a broad ignorant generalization!.! Period point blank....It was IGNORANT!

 

[Brian_the_King]

Get a pair of Def Tech towers with the built in subs... they put out plenty of bass, and they have high sensitivity so they can play very loud with moderate power.

Agreed

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