Best Sub for a $750 Budget

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3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Maybe if the OP could stretch the budget by additonal $300, he could buy 2 LV12-R which would out perform one PSA and provide a more even bass response.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
Maybe if the OP could stretch the budget by additonal $300, he could buy 2 LV12-R which would out perform one PSA and provide a more even bass response.
Haha...that could be said for others as well. Best advice would be to buy the best sub within his limit now & the knowledge... if need be...to add another one down the road. Like you though some of us do feel that one sub is more than adequate. All the subs mentioned above would work very well for him.
 
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Tom V.

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I get a lot of name-calling but rarely any serious counter-point to my arguments.
Maybe because you never offer a real argument? You make overly vague insinuations(that are impossible for me to even address) as an excuse to bring my honesty / ethics / morality into question. And YOU whining about "name calling" now? Talk about the pot and the kettle, sheesh. As far as your personal vendetta. I invite ANYONE interested to examine your post history at various forums and after they read through THOUSANDS of your post stalking me and hurling personal insults for the better part of the past decade.....let them decide for themselves..:)

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
 
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crossedover

Audioholic Chief
Maybe because you never offer a real argument? You make overly vague insinuations(that are impossible for me to even address) as an excuse to bring my honesty / ethics / morality into question. And YOU whining about "name calling" now? Talk about the pot and the kettle, sheesh. As far as your personal vendetta. I invite ANYONE interested to examine your post history at various forums and after they read through THOUSANDS of your post stalking me and hurling personal insults for the better part of the past decade.....let them decide for themselves..:)

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
Even by his criticisms and talk of creditable data, it would only be slight variances and nothing that would seriously sway a purchase. The top 5 ID companies all offer legitimate products and would only be set apart by esthetics and service with most apples to apples products.
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
Well, slovell, I hope you got some useful information from your thread. Looks like the thread is about to give diminishing returns from here on. Feel free to start a new one if you find yourself in need of more advice.
They won't all disintegrate into long-standing arguments, I promise.

 
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slovell

slovell

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Geez, I didn't intend to start an argument. I'm going with the Hsu VTF-3. IMHO it offers the most useful configuration to go against my side wall. The woofer will be pointed out into the room as well as the ports not being restricted against the wall making them easier to get to if I want to reconfigure them. I don't listen at reference levels so it should work out nicely. Two subs would present problems for me trying to figure out where to put the other one. It's also within my budget. I'm retired and on a fixed income so adding to my budget to get this and that could become a burden later.
Regards, Sam
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Geez, I didn't intend to start an argument. I'm going with the Hsu VTF-3. IMHO it offers the most useful configuration to go against my side wall. The woofer will be pointed out into the room as well as the ports not being restricted against the wall making them easier to get to if I want to reconfigure them. I don't listen at reference levels so it should work out nicely. Two subs would present problems for me trying to figure out where to put the other one. It's also within my budget. I'm retired and on a fixed income so adding to my budget to get this and that could become a burden later.
Regards, Sam
Arguments are regular events here as we all are passionate about audio. As long as the arguments are clean, there is no harm done. Congrats on your choice BTW :)
 
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shadyJ

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Maybe because you never offer a real argument? You make overly vague insinuations(that are impossible for me to even address) as an excuse to bring my honesty / ethics / morality into question. And YOU whining about "name calling" now? Talk about the pot and the kettle, sheesh. As far as your personal vendetta. I invite ANYONE interested to examine your post history at various forums and after they read through THOUSANDS of your post stalking me and hurling personal insults for the better part of the past decade.....let them decide for themselves..:)

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio
Nice try at a smear. If you can't argue substantively, engage in slander. Although, like you, I would encourage anyone to sift through my post history, here and at AVSforum, and count the many "thousands" of posts stalking you complete with personal insults. I don't think anyone who manages to stay awake rooting through my will posts find quite the obsession that you attempt to paint, but they will have to decide for themselves, of course.

Actually, for any poor soul who would undertake such a tedious task, let me help them get started: read this post or this post, or this post, or this post or this post or this post or any other post of mine from late 2012 to 2013 where I make subwoofer recommendations or discuss high value subs, all of which show a lot of positivity toward your company's products. Note during 2013 my enthusiasm towards PSA begins to wane as you and supporters start to make specious claims regarding competitors' subs, like so. Not long after these criticisms, I get accused of running a slander campaign. By 2014, you are telling people I have been stalking you for years. At least now in this post you are being open about it, instead of making these allegations in private messages to other people.

Even though I dislike this drama on the whole, I will state some facts for the few who could be bothered to follow this amusing little relationship of ours:
  1. I have only been an active audio forum user since 2009, when I became interested in home audio.
  2. I don't have any awareness of you, Tom, personally until maybe late 2012 at the earliest. Although this might come as a shock to your ego, I really have no knowledge of you until you start heavily promoting your subs in forums after you launched PSA. Can you point to any instance prior to this where I mention you or have any idea who are?
  3. Everything I do is out in the open for everyone to see. Believe it or not, I am not running any kind of anti-Tom V cabal. I do not trash people behind their backs, or at least I do not say anything I haven't already stated openly here or at AVSforum, which are the only two audio forums I participate in (except for the occasional post in Hsu's forums). I would invite anyone whom I have ever had private correspondence to provide evidence to the contrary.

You keep telling people I am stalking you, but you provide zero evidence to back your claims. Until you can demonstrate that I have been stalking you, perhaps you will want to tone down that accusation. If you can demonstrate that I am stalking or harassing you, you really should bring your evidence of those claims to the attention of the moderators both here and at AVSforums. If you can prove that, surely they would not hesitate to ban me.
 
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shadyJ

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Geez, I didn't intend to start an argument. I'm going with the Hsu VTF-3. IMHO it offers the most useful configuration to go against my side wall. The woofer will be pointed out into the room as well as the ports not being restricted against the wall making them easier to get to if I want to reconfigure them. I don't listen at reference levels so it should work out nicely. Two subs would present problems for me trying to figure out where to put the other one. It's also within my budget. I'm retired and on a fixed income so adding to my budget to get this and that could become a burden later.
Regards, Sam
You didn't start an argument. Looking back at the thread, I did, on page 3. I'm sorry I trashed your thread like this. I am sure you will enjoy your sub. If you have any setup questions, leave a post here or you can PM me if you wish, I have some familiarity with the VTF3 model and I visit this forum pretty regularly.
 
theJman

theJman

Audioholic Chief
You keep telling people I am stalking you, but you provide zero evidence to back your claims.
You certainly don't need Tom to do that, you're an expert in proving it. That's why so many call you out on a regular basis, because it's painfully obvious.


Geez, I didn't intend to start an argument. I'm going with the Hsu VTF-3. IMHO it offers the most useful configuration to go against my side wall. The woofer will be pointed out into the room as well as the ports not being restricted against the wall making them easier to get to if I want to reconfigure them.
No worries - you started nothing. He does this all the time, and the rest of us respond like what you see. You would think that walking into the same wall time and time again would lead to him try walking around it instead, but apparently not.

You chose a very good subwoofer, so I hope you enjoy it! FWIW... bass is omnidirectional, so even if you faced the driver into a wall it would still work.
 
Steve81

Steve81

Audioholics Five-0
Since the OP has made his choice and this thread appears to be circling the drain, time to shut her down.

Keep in mind folks, we're talking subwoofers, not politics or religion. Is there really a need to get this personal? Think about it. I'd rather not see another thread devolve into insults, accusations of data manipulation/deceptive marketing/stalking, etc. If you've got nothing nice to say to your fellow forum member, stick to the technical bits to make your point and be done with it.
 
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