Best Projectors Ever?

[Jazzwyld]

Ok, price is not an option. What do you think the Sony Qualia or the Fujitsu Projector? I've seen the Fujitsu next to the 30k Runco, Vidikron, and JVC and it blows it away in clarity. Have you seen them? The only one I haven't seen next to the Fujitsu is the Sony which is slightly more expensive and the bulb for the Sony is 3k and the Fujitsu 500. We just became the exclusive dealer for the Fujitsu Projector for our whole state...no one else has it, nor will, at least not from Fujitsu directly. I'd like to see what opinions you guys have on it, if you've seen it. Don't speculate, just like I am not about the Sony which is getting rave reviews...ok...go!

 

[av-man]

haven't seen the fujitsu, but it is probably awsome. I deal the Sim2 line and their HT500E-link is the best Ive seen in the 30K range. I'm pretty sure Runco doesn't make any of their own projectors, so I'm not a big fan of theirs.

 

[Jazzwyld]

Yeah there are so many projectors out there. I haven't heard of Sim2. I definitely encourage you to check out the Fujitsu or Sony. Depending on what you like about projection. The best example I can give to the Fujitsu is that is it like looking at a 92" plasma on the wall. With high def its like a big window, its a beautiful picture. The Fujitsu's AVMII processing is incredible there was a big difference in their plasmas from the AVM to the AVMII, then they dropped their price, and made it better now that's a deal. So to come full circle find a place or if you're in my neck of the woods come to my showroom!

 

[Catdaddy]

What are you selling the Fujitsu for?

I am pretty biased, though, I love the picture I get from my XV-Z12000 and my firehawk screen. You ever seen a XV-Z10000 or 12000? Im curious to see how they compare.

I havent found a Sony, or Qualia, or any home theater store around here for that matter, who carries a demo Qualia or other 1080p projector (and ive looked up and down). I do know that from all the projector images ive seen on any showroom, the XV-Z12000 blows them all away.

 

[brian32672]

haven't seen the fujitsu, but it is probably awsome. I deal the Sim2 line and their HT500E-link is the best Ive seen in the 30K range. I'm pretty sure Runco doesn't make any of their own projectors, so I'm not a big fan of theirs.

If money is no concern the HT500E, has way better specs. And would be my choice. Only if I had an extra 30K. ooohhh. The 3 chip Darkchip DLP HD2+. With a much better contrast. I am looking to get a Sim2, but sadly could only afford a HT280.

AV-Man, do you sell these and if so-whats the cost?

 

[brian32672]

AV-Man, do you sell these and if so-whats the cost?

Also is that one of yours I am bidding on. On eBay????

 

[Moli]

I am fan of the true cinematic image that only a CRT can provide.
Having seen a few 1 and 3 chip DLP's l still feel for the price, calibration and necessary fine tuning and longevity a CRT will always be the reference projector in a true Home Theatre set up

Moli

 

[av-man]

brian32672,
No I can't sell Sim2 on Ebay. You will be happy with the HT280. If you want to save a couple of hundred bucks look at the Domino 20H.

I don't know what you can find them for on Ebay but retail is $6495 for the HT280 and $5495 for the Domino 20.

 

[brian32672]

brian32672,
No I can't sell Sim2 on Ebay. You will be happy with the HT280. If you want to save a couple of hundred bucks look at the Domino 20H.

I don't know what you can find them for on Ebay but retail is $6495 for the HT280 and $5495 for the Domino 20.

Actually the guy selling on eBay is named thx-av-man (states authorized dealer in Texas). Thats why I asked....

Of those 2, I like the 280 specs better.

 

[brian32672]

Actually it mr.thx-avman and the item # is 5783263548 You don't ever really see to many Sim2's on eBay though. I had seen that your bio says Alabama. But thought I would ask.....

 

[Catdaddy]

The XV-Z12000 has 1 of the HD2+ chips and a 7 segment color wheel. I have never seen a rainbow effect on it, and with a firehawk screen black is black. Its a darker black than I get with my CRTs, with all of the shades of gray on my THX optimizer available to me, still.

Some images I get with it appear 3-dish.

I wasnt sure which way to go, Studiotek or Firehawk, being that the XV-Z12000 really gets some dark darks on matte white already, but I have no doubts that I made the right choice, now.

Id love to be able to see a very nice CRT setup like you probably have, Moli. I like to be awed and love to just sit back and watch pristine quality pictures on a large screen.

I went to the Barco site to see about the barco CRT projectors, and it appears to me they no longer have a current CRT model. Unless I missed it, it seems that all their new projectors are DLP and LCD which would seem strange if the CRT was superior, price not being a factor.

While my kids and I are still movieholics, as far as going to theaters, Im much more underwhelmed by the quality of the picture I see at theaters (in terms of greys and blacks) versus what I have at home.

I really cant wait for HD-DVD and blu-ray to get here.

 

[Jazzwyld]

We Currently Have the XV-Z12000U. We actually are trying to get rid of it for $6600 full warranty. It blows the Sharp away. Don't be concerned with specs, they only paint a picture with connect the dots, when you see the projector then you can judge it. That's like judging a A/V reciever on THD and power...its not an educated way to buy.

 

[Catdaddy]

<<We Currently Have the XV-Z12000U. We actually are trying to get rid of it for $6600 full warranty. It blows the Sharp away. Don't be concerned with specs, they only paint a picture with connect the dots, when you see the projector then you can judge it. That's like judging a A/V reciever on THD and power...its not an educated way to buy.>>

What are you talking about? What kind of screens do you have them up on? Do you actually have a Sharp XV-Z12000 and a Fujitsu LPF-D711 up and viewable?

Post a link and a phone number for your store. I would love to see your Fujitsu projector. I hope I havent sounded like I was dissing it, Im actually quite interested in it and the Qualia.

I need to see one first, though.

From all of the not-too-extensive reading I have done on them most people are saying 1080i content looks really awesome on the 1080ps but that normal DVD content looks better on a DLP projector, even on the Sharp, then on a Qualia which more seem to believe looks better than the Fujitsu.

Someone as intelligent sounding as you needs to start posting in this thread, with the big boys. Though you probably should research a bit before you start posting there, most of those guys probably have heard of Sim2, because they sound like they are very experienced with projectors.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=516804&page=4&pp=30

Thats a pretty good deal on your Sharp projector. How much are you selling the Fujitsu for?

 

[Jazzwyld]

We have Draper and Stewart Screens, we are for the Sharp and Fujitsu using a Draper screen. Yes we have both projectors. We just ordered the Fujitsu a few days ago, but have had a demo in our posession for a total of a week to decide if we wanted to keep it.

We have watched 1080i material and DVD on both projectors and the Fujitsu wins out hands down on both media. I work at Cherry Creek Audio in Denver, CO. www.cherrycreekaudio.com 303-758-4434. I'm Jeff, but any person you get can talk to you about the differences they see. We are selling the Sharp at $6600 and the Fujitsu at retail. I really want to see the Qualia, the selling points against it are quite great a 3k bulb is a big selling disadvantage.

I hate spec sometimes. When you read it you can find out that Fujitsu plasma's aren't as bright as other plasmas or have lighter blacks, but I challenge you to place that same plasma against a "spec superior" plasma and you'll find a different story. I hate spec when it comes to speakers and video and eletronics in general. I was just telling a customer today hearing and seeing is subjective. People who say that X Brand is the best are speaking for themselves only. I've seen the other projectors that I mentioned before. They don't compare in my eyes to the Fujitsu. But I'll stop my rant for now.

Hope to hear from you either on the post or if you are in the neighborhood that you drop by.

 

[av-man]

jazzwyld,
I checked out you site. You folks carry some great lines. I can't wait until our area catches up to the rest of the country so we can move some of the really high-end lines.

 

[Catdaddy]

Got to admit that takes some balls to post on that thread. Those guys seem to be talking on a different plane as to what projectors do and why they do it.

Like you, my experience is also only limited to what I have seen and what I have read and I have been commenting on what I have actually seen myself. I have seen many projectors, running on several kinds of screens in different types of light controlled rooms, with many of the home theater dealers, stores, and even home networking locations that have them in the Austin area.

I have not come accross a one that has either the Qualia or the Fujitsu, nor any 1080p projector for that matter, and from what I have seen demoed for me on many different combinations of projectors/screen/and ambient light, nothing I have seen comes anywhere close to my projector on my firehawk in my pitch black media room.

I probably should allow for the fact that most of those projectors probably werent tweaked and optimized to my preferences, (in contrast /brightness /etc) but all those things withstanding the Sharp XV-Z12000 setup that I have in my media room blew them all away.

My neighbor has a setup on a 120 inch dalite screen that gets left in the dust, too.

Now I have no doubt that a 1080p projector of any sort would provide superior picture with 1080i source material and probably even upconvert 480 material pretty nicely. Although, what I have read indicates that because of lack in "black levels" the Qualia and LCD 1080p, specifically the Fujitsu, several what I would call "people who know what they are talking about" seem to believe that a projector running the mustang 2+ chip from TI, even the Sharp specifically, gives them a run for their money because picture quality takes into account more than just picture resolution.

As you have probably seen, from reading that thread that I attached, those people posting there arent farting around with their knowledge of projectors. Those people either have spent money on projectors of that caliber, deal with them (as dealers), or both.

Now Im certain your opinion matters as much as any one of theirs, and Ill take you for your word on it. I have to see for myself that there is a significant picture quality increase from what I have versus the Qualia or the Fujitsu before I even think about dropping anywhere near $20kish on a projector.

I will check out your site in more detail, and will definitely give you a shout to talk shop with you. Maybe we can work out a deal on a RX-V4600.

I was contemplating the Denon 4806, but because I am in the want for the Denon 5910 and might be looking at a 1080p projector sooner than later .. i better take the easy way out on my receiver.

Looking forward to hearing your input and feedback on the projectors. Maybe I can give you some tweaks to do with your XV-Z12000 before you
remove it to make it look as good as it can. Specially if you tack it onto a firehawk screen.

Mike

 

[LEVESQUE]

A JVC HD2K calibrated by the magician William Phelps is the best I've seen.

I was able to also see a Sony G90 well calibrated and the HD2K was simply better to my eyes. Black level and CR is not everything.

Pixel-perfect uniformity and convergence, superior ANSI CR and shadow details, eye-popping colors, and 1080p resolution.

 

[brisankz]

I am fan of the true cinematic image that only a CRT can provide.
Having seen a few 1 and 3 chip DLP's l still feel for the price, calibration and necessary fine tuning and longevity a CRT will always be the reference projector in a true Home Theatre set up

Moli

Hi. I have a BARCO cini 7 crt projector. I have seen many projectors ,but this one beats most of them hands down. Lovely clear picture on a screen 12ft wide. I havent seen many in the USA for sale but i do know that Steven Speilberg has a Barco he uses at home. If its good enough for him Ive got no problems. Has anybody Here got one ? Brisankz.