Best 5.1 speaker system for under 2k $2000

Crackerballer

Crackerballer

Senior Audioholic
I didn't see those prices online, do you have to call them? Seems like a killer deal.
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
The Q700 will be double the price of Q300. I feel, if the cross-over from the speakers to sub is set around 50 Hz, then I would not gain by going to floor standing ones. The Q300 is rated from 42hz to 40khz and the Q700 is 36 hz to 40kHz. My main use is for movies.
This is the problem with spec sheets.
the Q300 has a single 6.5" driver covering the range from about 42khz to 2.5khz. It's a coaxial speaker, so the midrange cone reflects the rearward response of the tweeter forward, and when it's moving, it's modulating this reflected response.

First of all, a crossover at 50hz is too low as it is. Run a 50, 60hz tone at a decent SPL through a coaxial, and unless the vent is dominating the response, you get a lot of motion. This will affect the response in the 2khz to 6khz range!

So you will want to cross over either of these speakers above 80hz,

Even at 100hz, you get a lot of driver motion from a 6.5" cone.

The Q700 has twice the surface area, which will HALF the driver motion at the same SPLs. That will mean more max output (more realism on dynamic sequences), better sound at the same mid-high outputs(less distortion and modulation), and thus a smoother transition from subwoofer to midwoofer (because one hasn't run out of steam, giving itself away).

I would cross either of these speakers at 80hz to 100hz because they're 2.5 way coaxials.

Just because the spec sheet tells you it goes deep, doesn't tell you how it behaves when it goes deep! And even when crossed over at 80hz, behaviour from 80hz to 300hz is very important.
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
I also second the q900s over the q700s for much the same reason. two 8" cones again need to move less than two 6.5" cones to produce the same spl.

If it's a matter of money, consider stepping down from the q300s to the q100s. not enough of a difference for a surround speaker IMO
 
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sn7

Audioholic Intern
I hear you for the surrounds. So I will go with q900 + q600c + surrounds.
Would the dipole q800ds be better surrounds than q100? I have no experience with dipoles and am not sure how they work with audyssey multi-eq (in built in my onkyo tx nr3008)
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
I hear you for the surrounds. So I will go with q900 + q600c + surrounds.
Would the dipole q800ds be better surrounds than q100? I have no experience with dipoles and am not sure how they work with audyssey multi-eq (in built in my onkyo tx nr3008)
As far as audyssey, first focus on getting a system setup without any room eq. the q900s are probably very room-forgiving speakers... i'd crossfire them BTW. Worry about something like multeq last.

As far as dipole surrounds, i wouldnt even bother... movies and music are mixed with monopole surround monitors. Do get four q100 surrounds though if you like. 7.x helps spread out the surround field a bit IMO compared to 5.x
 
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sn7

Audioholic Intern
great - ordered the q900 pair + q100 pair + q600c ... arriving on Friday!
Now for the sub - seems like outlaw LFM-1 EX for $550 shipped is a pick here.

by the way - the total with sub will be $2575 shipped... so not really an under $2k set up. But I guess the extra $500 will keep me happy for much longer.
 
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yveletnik

Junior Audioholic
great - ordered the q900 pair + q100 pair + q600c ... arriving on Friday!
Now for the sub - seems like outlaw LFM-1 EX for $550 shipped is a pick here.

by the way - the total with sub will be $2575 shipped... so not really an under $2k set up. But I guess the extra $500 will keep me happy for much longer.
man, that's what I was gonna do b4 i started reading about Salk and Philharmonics. Congrats on job done :)
 
Crackerballer

Crackerballer

Senior Audioholic
great - ordered the q900 pair + q100 pair + q600c ... arriving on Friday!
Now for the sub - seems like outlaw LFM-1 EX for $550 shipped is a pick here.

by the way - the total with sub will be $2575 shipped... so not really an under $2k set up. But I guess the extra $500 will keep me happy for much longer.
From what I've seen, everyone starts with a budget and then Audioholics convinces them that something 120-130% over is the best for their "budget"

This forums is worse than the ones dedicated to BRD.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
From what I've seen, everyone starts with a budget and then Audioholics convinces them that something 120-130% over is the best for their "budget"

This forums is worse than the ones dedicated to BRD.
True, but no one is bring forced to up the budget and at minimum we keep people away from poor value for money purchases.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
great - ordered the q900 pair + q100 pair + q600c ... arriving on Friday!
Now for the sub - seems like outlaw LFM-1 EX for $550 shipped is a pick here.

by the way - the total with sub will be $2575 shipped... so not really an under $2k set up. But I guess the extra $500 will keep me happy for much longer.
It will be a good system, and we did not reccomend the Waterfall speakers.
Amazon.com: Waterfall Audio "Victoria" EVO Floor Standing Loudspeakers - Pair: Electronics

So, you stayed under $6,000 - Have Fun!
 
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sn7

Audioholic Intern
moral of the story - stay away from this forum for next 5yrs... until when you are ready to upgrade to B&W 804S set... wait should I go with the 804D?... just kidding -

Thanks to everyone who helped me with my decision.
 
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lemonslush

Audiophyte
How is the setup treating you? I am thinking about getting a variation of yours q900 to q700?
 
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sn7

Audioholic Intern
How is the setup treating you? I am thinking about getting a variation of yours q900 to q700?
I actually went with the Q900 and absolutely love the set up. Surrounds are Q300 and center is Q600.
Upgrading my reciever to onkyo TX-NR3009 made a world of a difference. I have bi-amped the Q900s.

I have also added the outlaw LFM1EX. For starters, you are more than fine without it. The sub does make a difference to the movies.
Onething that was very useful were the dimpled disks from outlaw that go under the spikes. I actually ordered more of those for the Q900s as I have hard wood floors and they work much better than some other dimpled discs I have.

This would be an excellent set up.
 
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