Behringer EP4000

[mike c]

that's crazy stupid.

 

[Warpdrv]

Its too bad, as I was looking for something a bit more powerful and still somewhat inexpensive then the EP2500 for my 15" TC3000 ti cone.

 

[Wafflesomd]

That's a shame.

I will still probably end up buying one just to see if the internals are the same. For some reason I suspect a transformer change.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Me too.........

I cancelled my order.

 

[armstrr]

so they just rebadged the 1500/2500 and tested them at higher distortion levels to get "higher" output? sounds kinda lowbrow to me.

 

[T2T]

The EP4000s are starting to show up on eBay now.

 

[VERTIGGO]

Darn, I was about to jump on that used EP2500 offer!

 

[Torgus]

so whats it put out bridged at 4ohms? 1400RMS? if so that'll be perfect for my HT build.

 

[Seth=L]

The EP2500 is still an amazing amplifier, and it explains why the price is the same. They probably figure it will give people a reason to believe they are updating something somewhere. They should really get the ball rolling on making an amp with a quieter fan or no fan at all that can compete with the EP2500 in raw output while keeping the cost as low as possible.

 

[jamie2112]

How much are the 4000's going for on ebay?

 

[yamaha102]

There are two things I can't understand...
the first: the MAX power consumption of the EP4000 is 2600w (a part that is the same of EP2500) so how can it give 4000watts? It shouldn't has a output bigger than the input...

second: what is this technology (ATR)??... the weight of the amp is the same and the power is declared with different factors...
I mean: -(a part that I've bought an EP1500, not a 2000 cause I think they're the same...)


EP1500 8Ohm 1kHz @0,1_%THD 280w
EP2000 8Ohm 1kHz @1___%THD 350w
you know from 0.1 to 1% there is an increase of 1dB, so 280x1.3=360

I really can't understand!

I wuold like to see a result of objective test to understand if there is any difference...

 

[T2T]

How much are the 4000's going for on ebay?

$349, with free shipping.

 

[Foxof]

There are two things I can't understand...
the first: the MAX power consumption of the EP4000 is 2600w (a part that is the same of EP2500) so how can it give 4000watts? It shouldn't has a output bigger than the input...

second: what is this technology (ATR)??... the weight of the amp is the same and the power is declared with different factors...
I mean: -(a part that I've bought an EP1500, not a 2000 cause I think they're the same...)


EP1500 8Ohm 1kHz @0,1_%THD 280w
EP2000 8Ohm 1kHz @1___%THD 350w
you know from 0.1 to 1% there is an increase of 1dB, so 280x1.3=360

I really can't understand!

I wuold like to see a result of objective test to understand if there is any difference...

There's a difference between input and output voltage....

 

[MidnightSensi]

Behringer is still up to their usual.

They are way behind now, they need to buy a PLX and knock that off rather than the old RMXs that, while still good, you can find pretty damn cheap now so it doesn't really make sense to buy the knockoff Behringer anymore. No-one doing mobile or touring wants to lug that thing, so, their market has been reduced to mostly kids and bars.

 

[Wafflesomd]

Read the thread.

The EP4000 is a relabeled EP2500.

 

[yamaha102]

There's a difference between input and output voltage....

Yes but the output power can't be bigger than 2600w that is the max consumption... It should be 1300w

Increasing the voltage the Amperage goes down...you can't create energy

So what is the difference between the 2500 and the 4000?
Cause I need to buy one for a high-performance autobuild subwoofer.

I think that the only reason to buy the 4000 is that it's newer than the 2500

 

[lsiberian]

Increasing the voltage the Amperage goes down...you can't create energy

We only want to create power not energy.

How would increasing voltage reduce amperage? That makes no sense.

Ohm's Law can be changed to this. I =V/R The only way to decrease amperage is to increase resistance or decrease voltage.

Power = V^2/R So increasing voltage would actually increase power by an n^2 growth.

 

[yamaha102]

you have 2600w
220V x 11.8A

if you want 300V the amperage goes down at 8.6A
the power doesn't change

 

[lsiberian]

you have 2600w
220V x 11.8A

if you want 300V the amperage goes down at 8.6A
the power doesn't change

Ahh I got you. But how does that work.

If I increase the Voltage to 300V then I must increase the resistance in order to decrease the amps.

 

[Wafflesomd]

So what is the difference between the 2500 and the 4000?

EP4000 is a relabeled EP2500.

Come on people, read the damn thread.