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Is there a difference between the Yamaha 2500 and the Denon 3805 in the amount of bass that is reproduced? It seems like my old Yamaha Rx 980 has a better low end to it then the 3805 that I just purchased.
Tried to find the eq parameter check to adjust the values you suggested, there was no eq chart under the parameter check page. Does this mean that the auto setup did not store any settings? Should I run the auto setup again?Also do you have any ideas why the osd does not work? I might have turned something off but I cant figure out what. It did work at one time.Buckeyefan 1 said:Pg 27 or 30 of the manual. The front panel of the receiver is easier to use than the remote unless you are used to the on screen display, then it's a breeze. Try boosting the 57Hz, 110Hz, 2.6kHz, 4.8kHz, and 10 kHz to a +5.0 gain. Now drop the 250Hz, 510Hz, and 1.1 Hz down to a -3.0 gain. See what you think. You will have to do this for all of your speakers, so it will take a few minutes. Next, you can turn the "tone defeat" off, and adjust the bass and treble on the "tone control" on the front of the receiver (#19 and 20 on page 17). That should bring out more than enough bass and highs. It's quite an impressive set up, and very logical to use once you get the hang of it.
Buckeyefan 1 said:The Denon plays a little more flat than the 2500. .
Well, your claim is totally agains what is know in psychoacousticssoniceuphoria said:That is not entirely true, some people do have the ability to hear different octaves in bass. Having installed over 100 car audio systems myself, I have a keen ability to hear minor distortions and phase variences in the lower frequencies. The fact that I have been a highly skilled and gifted musician, playing for 12 years doesn't hurt either. Good luck with your recievers
Greg
That was the screws coming out of the door panels you were hearing.soniceuphoria said:That is not entirely true, some people do have the ability to hear different octaves in bass. Having installed over 100 car audio systems myself, I have a keen ability to hear minor distortions and phase variences in the lower frequencies. The fact that I have been a highly skilled and gifted musician, playing for 12 years doesn't hurt either. Good luck with your recievers
Greg
Here we go....mtrycrafts said:Well, your claim is totally agains what is know in psychoacoustics![]()
Why do you think subs are rated at 10% distortion???
Just a few citations:
Thoise gifted musicians and conductors are no better-
"The Grass is Always Greener in the Outakes", Gould, Glenn, High Fidelity, Aug 75, pg 54-59.
Outlines Just noticable differences at low levels-
"High-Resolution Subjective Testing Using a Double-Blind Comparator", Clark, David, Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, Vol30, no 5, May82, pg 330-338.
Same-
"Level Discrimination as a Function of Level for Tones from .25 to 16khz", Florentine, Mary, et al, Journal of Acoustic Society of America, 81(5) May 1987, pg 1528-1541.
All this doesn't take away from being a gifted musician, but bias is bias![]()
I am sure you compared the two under biase controlled conditions, level matchedBuckeyefan 1 said:you can tell a Denon from a Yamaha. I know because I own both and compared both over and over with numerous jazz and classical cd's.
MacManNM said:Here we go....
Into Audibility again!
So are you saying you cannot hear the difference in units? My apologies to your ears. If this is the case, why bother rating and listening to any equipment at all? Does anyone else agree with me Denon and Yamaha has their own sound? Does a Krell amp sound like a McIntosh? Does a Pioneer sound like a Harman Kardon. C'mon, you can't possibly bring history into your corner on this one.mtrycrafts said:I am sure you compared the two under biase controlled conditions, level matched![]()
History is not on your side in this![]()