Axiom and Ascend???

[newtoitall]

silversurfer,

When I am running pure direct I asumed the EQ system was off.
The bridges for the terminals on the Ascends are still in place. I am not sure if the Yamaha 2500 can output sides A and B at the same time, in the manual it states in Canada, Sides A and B cannot be run at the same time. This is why I haven't tried running them in that configuration.

Thanks
Frank

 

[davef]

Hi Frank,

I checked the response curves for your speakers and they are correct.

I really wish I was there to see and hear what you are experiencing. Our loudspeakers are highly regarded for their midrange response.

How exactly are you comparing the speakers? Am I correct in assuming you have 1 set of speakers on the A outputs and another on the B outputs and you are then switching back and forth between them?

Which speakers are positioned inside and which on the outside? A digital picture of the setup would *really* help me out.

Might I also suggest that you swap the position of the speakers and swap which speakers are on the A-channel with those that are on the B-channel? It is not safe to assume that the receivers A-outputs are perfectly paralleled with the B-outputs (thus producing the exact same signal)

You should not be "missing something in the middle" with the 340 SE as you stated -- this would be perhaps the first comment of this kind

Do you have access to an SPL meter? I would be very curious to see the in-room response of both sets of speakers.

In addition, from reading Yamaha literature, I am not sure that pure direct mode bypasses YPAO. From my understanding, pure direct mode only bypasses dsp processing (yamaha soundfields) on the input signal (which is still confusing since you can use pure direct mode on a PCM signal) Please go into the receiver's configuration menu and turn YPAO to OFF. This will really cause problems since it is your friend's receiver and he probably set YPAO up in his room with completely different loudspeakers.

Have fun!

 

[Audioholics]

Pure Direct bypasses all bass management and YPAO.

 

[davef]

Thanks Clint...

I was not able to conclude that from any of the literature and I don't have access to the receiver to test it.

 

[newtoitall]

Hello again folks,

 

[newtoitall]

Please don't ask me what I did to post the previoud because I don't know

Dave F,
I did as you asked and tried switching As for Bs with the Ascends and there didn't seem to be any difference to my ears. I also switched inside to outside with the same results, maybe not quite as bright when inside as opposed to out but still not comfortable for me.
I apologise for causing so much hastle and I do appreciate your efforts, but I can't seem to get comfortable with the Ascends, it may be my room acoustics or eguipment or most likely just my ears. I am happy to have had the chance to try your product and I truly do wish I was able to find an answer to what I was hearing especially since it cost me $160.00 more even after the exchange rate just to get them across the border to Canada (There has to be a better way of doing such things).
Everyone hears differently we are told and I now believe it to be very true.

The Axiom M22s are another very respected and well built speaker that I tried
but could not get what I wanted to hear out of. They have a wonderful midrange but to my ears there wasn't enough high end, and they didn't fill my room as well as I had hoped. They are a fairly small speaker and to me they sounded a little small.

Both of these speaker companies should be very proud of what they have accomplished as there are many very happy customers out there who will attest to their quality, both sound and build.

You folks may think I have ears like radar dishes or some other malformity??
that messes with what I hear but that's what I hear

I am now trying the Energy RC-LCRs and so far they have what my ears like.

Thanks all,
Frank

 

[Pianoman84d]

Hi Frank,

This is what ID companies are all about. Letting you try the gear in your own home to see if it is what YOU like in your own environment. You should not feel bad for deciding you do not like it. Thats the whole point. Hope you do find what you like!!

 

[littleb]

The Axiom M22s are another very respected and well built speaker that I tried
but could not get what I wanted to hear out of. They have a wonderful midrange but to my ears there wasn't enough high end, and they didn't fill my room as well as I had hoped. They are a fairly small speaker and to me they sounded a little small.

Ladies and gentleman, this must be a first.