audiophileliquidator.com,bestofaudio.com???

[feller21]

Any one purchase from either of these websites? They claim to buy products from busineses going out of business. Yet they have brand new products like 30% to 50% off. How is this done? Are they pedaling knock offs, they claim to only sell a stock. Is it worth taking the chance on a unauthorized dealer? Any info would greatly be appreciated, or if there is another thread direct me there so I can learn what's up.

 

[jamie2112]

Yeah I would stay away!!!! super expensive if you ask me.....

 

[highfigh]

Any one purchase from either of these websites? They claim to buy products from busineses going out of business. Yet they have brand new products like 30% to 50% off. How is this done? Are they pedaling knock offs, they claim to only sell a stock. Is it worth taking the chance on a unauthorized dealer? Any info would greatly be appreciated, or if there is another thread direct me there so I can learn what's up.

If they aren't an authorized reseller, there's no warranty, either. Pretty much a risk that may not be worth taking, for a lot of people.

 

[KEW]

I'd agree. Both sites appear to be too new to have developed a history, so it would be a serious gamble.
But their pricing was so poor (on the items I checked) that there isn't much incentive to give them a second look.

 

[feller21]

Prices?

I realise it's a gamble but their prices are not high, in fact they are very low compared to reg prices. I guess what's confusing is how they get the product in the first place, and then are able to sell it at such a discount. But you guys have talked me out of trying them thanks!!! I may give their 1 800 # a call and see how they describe their products, prices and warranties and all that just to know more so I can better describe to others what kind of scam it is, and maybe help others that are tempted as I was. Thanks Yall!

 

[oppman99]

Do a google search for audiophileliquidator. You will see a ton of negative comments. Same question came up a few years back when I was looking for "real" speakers. You'd be better off watching audiogon for whatever you are looking for to turn up within driving distance. I wouldn't chance it.

 

[Musicishonest]

Stay away!!!

Tried to order from these jokers two weeks ago. Never got any e mail confirmation, nobody answers the phone. When I contacted pay pal to dispute the payment this guy called from a blocked number and was a complete a-hole on the phone. This seller is a scam.....stay away.

 

[davidtwotrees]

Geezo. If it seems to good to be true........
Everyone wants to put their hand in your wallet. It is up to you to determine just who that is. If you let people you have no clue about put their hand in your wallet, be prepared to lose your money.
See the above poster for a clue.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

You can call the BBB and check their local business rating.

Go to the BBB.org and call them, then tell them the zip codes of those businesses. They will tell you the local BBB phone numbers. Then call the local BBB and inquire about those 2 places.

If you still want to take a chance, buy with a credit card that can protect you with features like zero liability on unauthorized charges and charge disputes.

Buying from those places reminds me of buying on eBay or Audiogon - used products with no warranty. Actually some stuffs on Audiogons offer full waranty.

Good luck.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

You can call the BBB and check their local business rating.

Go to the BBB.org and call them, then tell them the zip codes of those businesses. They will tell you the local BBB phone numbers. Then call the local BBB and inquire about those 2 places.

If you still want to take a chance, buy with a credit card that can protect you with features like zero liability on unauthorized charges and charge disputes.

Buying from those places reminds me of buying on eBay or Audiogon - used products with no warranty. Actually some stuffs on Audiogons offer full waranty.

Good luck.

very good advice re:BBB.org - you can check the web site url directly (http://www.bbb.org/us/Find-Business-Reviews/) however both site come up blank - this alone should tell you one thing only - STAY AWAY

Even shady sites like superbiiz.com are listed (not necessarily BBB accredited, but listed)

 

[digicidal]

I think I posted this in another thread about similar companies, but I'll add it here in case it was on another forum. As someone with significant experience in site design and ecommerce management - I've developed an eye for sites that come packaged as templates. On the one hand they are a quick way for a startup to have a slick image for a very low price (much lower than hiring me - that's for sure!). On the other hand there is a big difference between someone using templates for a turn-key site backing a family restaurant, auto repair shop, cellphone accessories store, etc... and someone selling mid to high-end electronics.

I've seen so many companies using the same templates over the year that unfortunately (for the handful of honest ones) I will simply refuse to do business with any ecommerce store that uses one. For an example look here. Notice the similarities? You can look at hundreds of fly-by-night operations in NY and LA that will look nearly identical.

The thought process is very simple. If a retailer is supposedly carrying $20K-100K in inventory... but can only afford to spend $149.95 on the website used to carry out all of those transactions... something isn't right.

The Internet (aesthetically speaking) isn't any different than a B&M business. If you are buying a car from a dealership with a large, attractive building with a service center, and major brand backing... you can be reasonably assured that they will still be there 40K miles later when you have a problem with your car. If they have a tent in the corner of a parking lot and a travel trailer for a sales office... no matter how much off retail they are asking... you are going to be on your own from the moment you hand them the check.

I would rather buy from an ecomm site that looks like it was designed by a 5yr old (provided it is the site for the MANUFACTURER of a niche product) - than something that is visually appealing but was obviously bought of a template site rather than developed and supported in-house.

Bottom line: If you can afford to regularly cut 30% off the price of $5K speakers, but can't afford to pay a web designer $2500 for a custom website... something smells.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Here is an example of BBB rating on another one of those sites - Independent Audio Video:

http://www.bbb.org/delaware/business-reviews/audio-visual-equipment-dealers/independent-audio-video-in-ocean-view-de-32000438/

And here is Digital Craze:

http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey/business-reviews/audio-visual-equipment-dealers/digitalcrazecom-in-woodbridge-nj-26001020

 

[gene]

You can call the BBB and check their local business rating.

Go to the BBB.org and call them, then tell them the zip codes of those businesses. They will tell you the local BBB phone numbers. Then call the local BBB and inquire about those 2 places.

If you still want to take a chance, buy with a credit card that can protect you with features like zero liability on unauthorized charges and charge disputes.

Buying from those places reminds me of buying on eBay or Audiogon - used products with no warranty. Actually some stuffs on Audiogons offer full waranty.

Good luck.

The BBB is a scam. It's a paid membership and you get an A status simply by paying a monthly fee. They do nothing to resolve consumer complaints. Don't waste your time.

AudiophileLiquidator.com has been red flagged by many of the major manufacturers, several of whom have legal disputes with them. I'd be very careful purchasing from them.

 

[its phillip]

I still like to use the bbb to see how many complaints have been registered with a company, but I usually check sites like reseller ratings and ripoff report and the like to see some real (hopefully ) anecdotes from customers.

 

[PHANofPHUNK]

Im a big fan of accessories4less.com. that's were I got my Sr7001.

I trust them with my money, and I'm carefully with it.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

The BBB is a scam. It's a paid membership and you get an A status simply by paying a monthly fee. They do nothing to resolve consumer complaints. Don't waste your time.

AudiophileLiquidator.com has been red flagged by many of the major manufacturers, several of whom have legal disputes with them. I'd be very careful purchasing from them.

I did some additional research, and looks like Gene has a valid point...

Info:
http://www.consumertipsreports.org/is_the_bbb_really_a_good_consumer_resource.html
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/11/better_business_bureau_favors.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/24/business/la-fi-bbb-20101124

 

[RipcordAFF]

The prices seem low enough to be a red flag for me personally...

 

[Westernregmgr]

Best of Audio and Audiophile liquidators are scams

Best of audio BEWARE: Best of audio is a guy who has a desk in a someone else office at 2783 Hyperion st, Los Angels, CA, no store front. They are NOT authorized for any brands they carry and if you buy from them you have no warranty. They take your pay pal money or credit card and never send you the goods. After having to report them to PayPal they returned my money.

My company has ordered over 6 items from them and never recieved one of them.

Beware

Audiophile liquidators is a credit card scam and is located in Ulkraine. They are collecting credit card numbers you never get the goods.

 

[cpp]

The BBB, They are a non-profit, charity organization known as a 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4) 501(c)(6). This means that whatever money you donate to their cause is tax-deductible. The more you pay the better your rating is. Scam for sure.

 

[highfigh]

The BBB is a scam. It's a paid membership and you get an A status simply by paying a monthly fee. They do nothing to resolve consumer complaints. Don't waste your time.

AudiophileLiquidator.com has been red flagged by many of the major manufacturers, several of whom have legal disputes with them. I'd be very careful purchasing from them.

But they give shiny, gold plaques to their members.