Audiophile Cable Synergy: Real or Snake Oil?

[NINaudio]

Too much of a wuss to post why you disagree?

If you haven't worked in consumer audio and especially as it was in the past, you'll never understand what it was and what it could have been.

It used to be enjoyable- now, it's a PITA.

Because he's a believer in the BS. Just look at his signature, he actually lists wall sockets in it, he's fully bought into it and there is no coming back for him.

 

[ryanosaur]

Because he's a believer in the BS. Just look at his signature, he actually lists wall sockets in it, he's fully bought into it and there is no coming back for him.

I can’t help but wonder how deep…

Power Outlets

www.pangeaaudio.com

Prices ranging from $25-100.

But that’s nothing. Performance has clearly been left on the table.

I can’t help but wonder what romex is in the walls?
Is there a special breaker panel?
A dedicated power line?
Hmmm.

Maybe I missed it but this is missing:

Audio Replas's CPC-2SZ/HG AC Receptacle Housing/HG

In addition to 30mm Air Craft Grade Aluminum-alloy, 10mm copper layer and 20mm layer of special alloy-powder were combined to make 3 stratums construction which can eliminate a noise in every frequency rangeWe realized a super clean power supply by succee

www.thecableco.com

And what about these? They should clearly outperform anything Pangea may offer!

Audio Magic SHD Duplex

Buy Audio Magic SHD Duplex, the high performance and best AC Duplex Outlets and Accessories from thecableco.com at cost effective rates.

www.thecableco.com

 

[highfigh]

I can’t help but wonder how deep…

Power Outlets

www.pangeaaudio.com

Prices ranging from $25-100.

But that’s nothing. Performance has clearly been left on the table.

I can’t help but wonder what romex is in the walls?
Is there a special breaker panel?
A dedicated power line?
Hmmm.

Maybe I missed it but this is missing:

Audio Replas's CPC-2SZ/HG AC Receptacle Housing/HG

In addition to 30mm Air Craft Grade Aluminum-alloy, 10mm copper layer and 20mm layer of special alloy-powder were combined to make 3 stratums construction which can eliminate a noise in every frequency rangeWe realized a super clean power supply by succee

www.thecableco.com

And what about these? They should clearly outperform anything Pangea may offer!

Audio Magic SHD Duplex

Buy Audio Magic SHD Duplex, the high performance and best AC Duplex Outlets and Accessories from thecableco.com at cost effective rates.

www.thecableco.com

I'm still concerned that someone made something milled from a block of Duralumin, stuck a layer of Carbon fiber on the face, installed hospital-grade outlets and an IEC power inlet, then wrote that the users could choose their own power cord, based on whatever trips their trigger. All for the low, low price of $3999. There's nothing inside, except for the wires.

...and people wonder why I and others are jaded.

 

[highfigh]

I don't think we agree with each other which is fine, we can agree to disagree and move on to another topic.

In case you think I was insulting you about not being in the business, I wasn't- it's a bit like the saying "pics, or it didn't happen'. The differences between selling & buying AV equipment are so huge that it's hard to make a clear comparison.

 

[witchdoctor]

I'm still concerned that someone made something milled from a block of Duralumin, stuck a layer of Carbon fiber on the face, installed hospital-grade outlets and an IEC power inlet, then wrote that the users could choose their own power cord, based on whatever trips their trigger. All for the low, low price of $3999. There's nothing inside, except for the wires.

...and people wonder why I and others are jaded.

Borrow anything that you want to try out, you don't have to buy it:

Cable Library

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www.thecableco.com

 

[OHMisback]

Audio Magic SHD Duplex

Buy Audio Magic SHD Duplex, the high performance and best AC Duplex Outlets and Accessories from thecableco.com at cost effective rates.

www.thecableco.com

I have always used Hubbell 5352. 125v 2 pole, 3 wire grounding (back and side) they are good copper. The last 20 pieces I bought were in the box 30.00 (surplus USAF).

I ran 12/2/g X 2 for every stereo outlet. L1 and L2 are wired to the receptacle and both on 20 amp breakers. I can run 220/240 single phase for the big Macs I used at the time, step down transformer or a dirty plug.

I had 150 dollars in Romex, receptacles and a 60 amp subpanel. I used 8 of the 20 outlets in 3 rooms, when I added the rooms to the house 38 years ago. I still have the
two extra outlets and a full box of 10 somewhere.

I'm not one to buy other's pre made cables. The heaviest/largest cable I currently use is SOOW 10/4 600v .9999 OFC. Add some heavy armor and it's great for sub/bass cables. I use them on 300lb bass bins. I have 4, 25 and 2 50 footers. I still don't have to use cable supports at wall outlets. 10/2/g to Tripp Lite 2400.

Some people use receptacles with "THE GOO". That goo doesn't like to be moved. Most of the "GOO" likes very tight, non moving connections to work the way it's suppose to. Thus the cable support at the outlet, in theory.

It's not all BS. I just received 12 cable sets, not one was over 100.00. 3 meter weaves and ribbons. Great looking and a cheap date to boot.

 

[witchdoctor]

I can’t help but wonder how deep…

Power Outlets

www.pangeaaudio.com

Prices ranging from $25-100.

But that’s nothing. Performance has clearly been left on the table.

I can’t help but wonder what romex is in the walls?
Is there a special breaker panel?
A dedicated power line?
Hmmm.

Maybe I missed it but this is missing:

Audio Replas's CPC-2SZ/HG AC Receptacle Housing/HG

In addition to 30mm Air Craft Grade Aluminum-alloy, 10mm copper layer and 20mm layer of special alloy-powder were combined to make 3 stratums construction which can eliminate a noise in every frequency rangeWe realized a super clean power supply by succee

www.thecableco.com

And what about these? They should clearly outperform anything Pangea may offer!

Audio Magic SHD Duplex

Buy Audio Magic SHD Duplex, the high performance and best AC Duplex Outlets and Accessories from thecableco.com at cost effective rates.

www.thecableco.com

First read the reviews:

https://www.amazon.com/Pangea-Audio-Premier-SE-Outlet/dp/B01DTHF1LS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1TUNQR4CR5AX6&keywords=pangea+wall+socket&qid=1659879713&sprefix=pangea+wall+socket%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1

Then borrow whatever you want and return if you don't like:

Cable Library

Default Description

www.thecableco.com

 

[MaxInValrico]

Well, Ok then, I hear a difference, Danny hears a difference, and the Vinyl Attack channel heard a difference when he did a blind test (6:30)and was, yes, "astounded". It isn't magic, I never said it was magic, and none of the guys in the videos said it was magic. You gotta let that s--- go man, people have experiences that are different, get over it.

Where's the measurements?

 

[lovinthehd]

First read the reviews:

https://www.amazon.com/Pangea-Audio-Premier-SE-Outlet/dp/B01DTHF1LS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1TUNQR4CR5AX6&keywords=pangea+wall+socket&qid=1659879713&sprefix=pangea+wall+socket%2Caps%2C161&sr=8-1

Then borrow whatever you want and return if you don't like:

Cable Library

Default Description

www.thecableco.com

LOL that's hilarious and sad at the same time. Pangea is a mild audiophool solution, at least the pricing isn't super silly like most of the crap at Mapleshade. Mapleshade "lending" library is not much of one to "borrow" cables with their 5% restocking fees....which will cost you more for most of their "library" than simply buying a reasonable cable to begin with...but if you want audiophoolery Mapleshade has it in spades!

 

[witchdoctor]

Where's the measurements?

Watch the video:

Audiophile Cable Synergy: Real or Snake Oil?

Looking at your post all I see is profanity. My experience is more similar to Ron Carter's I suspect: “I use a very percussive, chordal, hammer-on and harmonic bass technique. All the different nuances are more pronounced and audible with the Reference-II cord. This cable’s consistently clean...

forums.audioholics.com

 

[lovinthehd]

Watch the video:

Audiophile Cable Synergy: Real or Snake Oil?

Looking at your post all I see is profanity. My experience is more similar to Ron Carter's I suspect: “I use a very percussive, chordal, hammer-on and harmonic bass technique. All the different nuances are more pronounced and audible with the Reference-II cord. This cable’s consistently clean...

forums.audioholics.com

Danny doesn't demonstrate any proof in that video, as Danny generally doesn't.

 

[MaxInValrico]

Watch the video:

Audiophile Cable Synergy: Real or Snake Oil?

Looking at your post all I see is profanity. My experience is more similar to Ron Carter's I suspect: “I use a very percussive, chordal, hammer-on and harmonic bass technique. All the different nuances are more pronounced and audible with the Reference-II cord. This cable’s consistently clean...

forums.audioholics.com

Nope.

 

[witchdoctor]

Nope.

 

[MaxInValrico]

You can take the fork out now, you're done.

 

[witchdoctor]

Uhhh, did you want me to fedex those measurements instead?

 

[witchdoctor]

You can take the fork out now, you're done.

Dude, I'm done? You quit before you even got started. "May I have measurements please?"
Yes, here you go.

"Never mind"

 

[lovinthehd]

Uhhh, did you want me to fedex those measurements instead?

What measurements particularly would those be? Just because they are a type of measurement doesn't mean it proves the nonsense Danny spouts....

 

[witchdoctor]

You can take the fork out now, you're done.

So you'll spend a pile of cash on what looks like choice hardware but you won't spend 10 minutes to watch proof about the cables you use to run it with. I wish I had that kind of dispoable cash laying around. The Michi gear gets great reviews. OK, let's break it down to the basics.

Uhhh, do you need to plug in your amp? Yes! Does your outlet produce the required 120V needed by your equipment? That is the most basic measurement you get, do you know if you are close to 120V?

 

[lovinthehd]

So you'll spend a pile of cash on what looks like choice hardware but you won't spend 10 minutes to watch proof about the cables you use to run it with. I wish I had that kind of dispoable cash laying around. The Michi gear gets great reviews. OK, let's break it down to the basics.

Uhhh, do you need to plug in your amp? Yes! Does your outlet produce the required 120V needed by your equipment? That is the most basic measurement you get, do you know if you are close to 120V?

Again, what proof outside of your or the reviewer's imagination? Cables are a well known science, no need to latch onto someone's imagination.

 

[CajunLB]

I’m wondering if this might be the correct forum to discuss the the benefits of the Audiophile quality telephone post article?