Audio Speakers in ceilings and walls

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JackVa1

Junior Audioholic
Any downside to just sticking some Audio speakers around the home?
They are reletivley cheap and for backround music, Holiday sounds and stuff, what is the downside? Ceiling and Wall speakers are expensive.

Thanks for the thoughts
 
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m_vanmeter

Full Audioholic
you can't just add multiple speakers to an amplifier that is not designed for multiple "zones". Whole house speaker systems are very possible but the distribution equipment is specialized to handle the multiple speakers without damaging the amplifier with very low impedances.

It's usually best to let an audio installer work with you on a whole house system.
 
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JackVa1

Junior Audioholic
I have a multi Zone ONKYO system. Just wondering about speakers
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
what type of multizone system? example of audio speakers(are not speakers of the audio type)How many? How would they be run, ie series? These would be would be helpful for some one to give you opinions or advice.
 
DD66000

DD66000

Senior Audioholic
Using in-ceiling speakers for whole house audio is alright, if only using for background sound.
But, don't use them for serious music listen or for HT. In either case not the best choice, in fact, it should never be a choice.
I've heard of too many people, who when buying a house, had in-ceiling speakers installed for their HT by the contractor and then wondered why it sounded soooo bad, in particular really bad dialog from the center channel, to say nothing about the sound as if it was coming from outer space.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Cripes! Can we stop with the blanket misinformation?

1. Speakers are (generally) speakers are (generally) speakers. You get what you pay for and there are tons out there which you may consider perfectly acceptable for 'background' music.

ie: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-402

That's Parts Express (if the link doesn't work) for $42.00 a pair for in-ceiling speakers that will work for 'background' music in places like bathrooms and hallways or dining rooms where the volume will be low and the acoustics may suck.

2. You can't just string a bunch of speakers together willy-nilly.

Your A/V receiver has a main zone designed for 8 ohm... maybe 4 ohm output on each channel of amplification. It likely has a zone 2 amplifier (maybe) designed for an 8 ohm load. That's it. You can't just put a bunch of speakers on the amplifier and expect it to work. You will need impedence matching volume controls or a speaker selector - at the very least.

3. You can very much get top shelf in-wall speakers that will match some very good floor standing speakers on the market, but they will carry a price which matches those good floor standing speakers as well - if not costing more.

www.speakercraft.com and www.sonance.com are two prime examples of companies which make in-walls which can blow away a lot of floor standing models out there, including motorized in-ceiling models.

If going whole house audio, with a bunch of speakers (which I strongly recommend!) then get a decent outboard amp... at the very least, something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Audiosource-AMP-200-200-Watt-Power-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ310025457592QQihZ021QQcategoryZ39783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It will take the work load off your receiver and will give you enough power to run a bunch of speakers at once.

Better yet, is a true multi-channel amplifier like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Niles-SI-1230-12-Channel-Multi-Zone-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ290207631103QQihZ019QQcategoryZ14981QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Which can independently power each pair of speakers you put around your home.

If it's a new home and you are able to run all the wiring now, I would think and plan a lot deeper than 'what cheap speakers can I use?' and would focus on - how many rooms can I wire? Can I get control to all the rooms? What about conduit? Independent zoning and control?

There's so much cool stuff you can do BEFORE the drywall goes up it's amazing, and it's all about planning and thinking about how you want things setup.
 
J

JackVa1

Junior Audioholic
Car Audio

I am sorry! I meant to say Car Audio!!

I am dumb!
 
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