Audio Critic's Ten Biggest Lies

mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
You mean No Tanks.;):D

Down here the price is comparable to a regular tank heater. You're right they're not meant for long runs.
You mean around $350? +/-
That is inexpensive. What supply rates? But it is not that important.:D
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
But Dave.....this is an identity. (It doesn't even qualify as a double entendre a la Clinton..."depends on what your definition of is, is." ;)) A=A is not a fundamental truth. It's a construct that has no value beyond the individual constructor. "Existence exists" as you say, is no more a fundamental truth than it is to say Blue is Blue. Better to say...Blue Is. ;) But that is still not a fundamental truth. Blue is experienced by eyes/brains.
All communication is a construct that allows sentients to communicate. I have no other way to pass along my thoughts to you. I am trying through the use of my (obviously poor) constructs to convey that existence is independent of our knowledge, thought, beliefs or constructs (even if I have to use constructs to convey that idea to you).

Should some cataclysm eliminate all life on earth, would the earth cease to exist because there is nobody there to categorize it, name it, or construct it's identity? Certainly not. It's physical reality is independent of our perception even though it is our perception that guides the creation of the constructs that allow us to communicate about it.

Maybe I'm missing what you mean by fundamental truth. Please explain. I mean, everybody is getting thanked in this little digression but me. I must be missing something here.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
All communication is a construct that allows sentients to communicate. I have no other way to pass along my thoughts to you. I am trying through the use of my (obviously poor) constructs to convey that existence is independent of our knowledge, thought, beliefs or constructs (even if I have to use constructs to convey that idea to you).

Should some cataclysm eliminate all life on earth, would the earth cease to exist because there is nobody there to categorize it, name it, or construct it's identity? Certainly not. It's physical reality is independent of our perception even though it is our perception that guides the creation of the constructs that allow us to communicate about it.

Maybe I'm missing what you mean by fundamental truth. Please explain. I mean, everybody is getting thanked in this little digression but me. I must be missing something here.
There's a Thanks...you deserve it and I hope it makes you feel better! :)

Let me take you on a little left turn here. Quantum physics has demonstrated that the universe exists in a way that depends upon what you're looking for. Looking for waves in the EMF. You'll find them. Looking instead for particle behavior? You'll find that instead. Which is it? Well, we don't know. It's a duality that must be accepted. This conundrum is in itself not a Fundamental Truth, for it involves our lack of understanding our own construct.

Even if you look at the building-block level of the universe, the 4 elemental forces of Weak, Strong, Electromagnetic, and Gravity, and basic particles like Leptons and Quarks, we are much confused at the behavior of the dang things/energies. Remember Heisenberg? His Uncertainty Principle pretty much puts the kaibosh on ever knowing much about "this" universe at "this" (or any) time.

All the above aside, I have not kept up with modern discoveries in physical science and its implications for truly understanding the fundamental truths of the universe.

My POV is that an identity like 1+1=2 is not such a truth. It is an identity...made up in our minds in an effort to describe and utilize what we see. It is only a "model" of these Fundamental Truths...not the thing itself. Religious based models of fundamental truths are applications of faith only. Perhaps my view of 'truth' and 'fundamental truth' are different. MDS notes that the bottom of the ocean is wet. :) That, in my mind, is an identity..where the definition of the object is used in the subject answer. (Water is wet.) I'll call that a truth, but not in a fundamental truth as it relates to ultimate reality that may or may not be "out there".

Finally, Robbie asked me if I think the universe is deterministic. I'll answer that when he tells me one of his fundamental truths. ;)

Now back to your regularly scheduled water tank rust programming......:D
 
Highlander

Highlander

Full Audioholic
Wait...wait...he's still here. It's a trick. He's still awake!
I don't lie Adam.

Isn't this a fundamental truth, in and of itself.
No, it's just a true statement. ;)

My goodness. So much fundamentalism about. Fundamentalist Muslims, fundamental truths. Where does it all end?! :D

I've a question for the questioners, namely Adam and Tomorrow, though the more the merrier:

What do you think? Do you consider that there're fundamental truths?

You'll note I'm not asking you to list any, assuming you consider there are. :p
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
You mean around $350? +/-
That is inexpensive. What supply rates? But it is not that important.:D
Yeah, down here for some reason tankless water heaters are comparable in price, I've seen them for less than 350.00, We are 3, I have a 50 gallon gas fired unit, it more than serves it's purpose.
 
Highlander

Highlander

Full Audioholic
Nuh-uh. I asked you first.
No. Read the words. I've already written that I know they exist; it's what kicked this whole debate off in the first place I believe. :rolleyes: All I'm asking is whether or not you believe they exist.
 
D

Dolby CP-200

Banned
I was about to post this as another "snake oil?" question, but this thread seems very fitting. I came across this:

http://www.bedini.com/clarifier.htm

I saw that some guy on audiogon had it, so I wanted to see what the hell it was. Also, on the site, they have a review of someone who's used it:

http://www.bedini.com/review.htm

Is this for real? Is the guy who reviewed it for real? I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but it seems pretty outlandish to me. I mean, aren't CD's just binary code? By this theory, couldn't you similarly come up with a product the could clean your entire computer and make it "work better" with "improved performance" by cleaning its 1's and 0's?

So, what's the verdict? Snake oil or not?
LOL every time I read that name I burst out laughing.

What happened to that elusive, “ground loop” lie, I think its one of the issues that bugs the hell out of most of us around here.

:D
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
Fundamental truth: light up a candle, put your finger a half inch above said fire for a minute (supposing you can hold the pain) you'll have one truthful 3rd degree blister!:D
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
I think a cog has stopped turning in Tomorrow's brain. :p

Come on Tomorrow! What's taking you so long?! :D
Several cogs stopped spinning many years ago. In fact, I'm nearly cogless.

What's taking me so long? My wife had an extensive shopping list and I had to make (probably the wrong) executive decision on whether to buy Uncle Bens Long Grain and Wild Rice or Stove Top Stuffing Mix to go with tonight's broiled chicken breasts. That took 5 minutes all by itself! ;)

Nope...sorry Robbie. You answer my question and I'll answer both of yours. And further, that's only fair given your assertion that they (fundamental truths) certainly exist. :)
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
Several cogs stopped spinning many years ago. In fact, I'm nearly cogless.

What's taking me so long? My wife had an extensive shopping list and I had to make (probably the wrong) executive decision on whether to buy Uncle Bens Long Grain and Wild Rice or Stove Top Stuffing Mix to go with tonight's broiled chicken breasts. That took 5 minutes all by itself! ;)

Nope...sorry Robbie. You answer my question and I'll answer both of yours. And further, that's only fair given your assertion that they (fundamental truths) certainly exist. :)
What did you get? Tough choice. Though I like my stuffing better than any boxed, still Stove Top isn't bad, it has a unique taste especially if you substitue the butter for olive oil or sesame seed oil.:D
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
What did you get? Tough choice. Though I like my stuffing better than any boxed, still Stove Top isn't bad, it has a unique taste especially if you substitue the butter for olive oil or sesame seed oil.:D
Yeow...yet another twist in this Freeway Thread To Nowhere. :D

I went with the stuffing mix, and got extra for making tonight. But I also got some rice as backup. (I didn't just fall off the Marriage Truck, lol. I know how to cover my butt.)

Yeah, homemade stuffing is truly the way to go. Everybody's mom has a wonderful recipe, I'm sure. But the boxed stuff(ing) is soooo easy for weekday prep. I wouldn't mind your recipe, btw. ;)
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Not that I'll be answering, but...both? :confused:
Confused? (heh heh)

Okay...you asked A. if I believe in a deterministic universe and B. if I believed in the existence of universal truths. While there is overlap, they are two very different questions. :p

But since you won't answer your question about your avered truths, I shant speak further of the matter.

Time for you to go to bed, Robbie. ;)
 
AverageJoe

AverageJoe

Full Audioholic
...My wife had an extensive shopping list and I had to make (probably the wrong) executive decision on whether to buy Uncle Bens Long Grain and Wild Rice or Stove Top Stuffing Mix to go with tonight's broiled chicken breasts....
You shop, therefore you are?
:rolleyes:
 

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