Attic HT room project back in progress

Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
I am trying to make this install as clean and professional looking as possible so any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
Ya wanna do it right, tear out the walls & start from scratch. Otherwise it's gonna be a slugfest running wires. :(:(:(

That window wall opposite the entry is your best front stage. Especially if you decide to go with a FP setup. Otherwise, the way you have it set up with the TV in the dormer shouldn't be to bad.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Ya wanna do it right, tear out the walls & start from scratch. Otherwise it's gonna be a slugfest running wires. :(:(:(

That window wall opposite the entry is your best front stage. Especially if you decide to go with a FP setup. Otherwise, the way you have it set up with the TV in the dormer shouldn't be to bad.
Yeah, now I'm leaning towards using that wall as the front stage. The space in the sides could be used for side surrounds or sub placement. As far as ripping out the walls, if there is a way to prevent that, I'd really much rather go that route. :(
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Another immediate issue along with wiring is the placement of the TV in front of a window (assuming I go with ParadigmDawg's suggestion). I don't like the idea of my TV in front of a window, so to start I was thinking of either using something to black it out, or just use curtains for now. What would give it a nice professional look? Any ideas?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
OK, this is the best I can do. The program I used will not let me scan or link it up with Photobucket. The only way I could get it to work is to take a picture of the diagram and, well... it is now a photo. I know it sounds cheesy, but it works. ...of course with an obvious loss of quality. I hope this helps. ..
Oh, yes, that works well enough. I think the front speakers would react better with a flat and vertical wall behind it rather than a sloping wall about half way up.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
I am trying to make this install as clean and professional looking as possible so any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.
How easy would it be to wire into the closet from your choice of location? Do you want everything in the closet?
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
How easy would it be to wire into the closet from your choice of location? Do you want everything in the closet?
I don't think it's going to be easy. It just seems like a nice place for an equipment rack, but it doesn't have to go there.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Hi, I don't have much time right now to go over this whole thread, but a couple of little offerings:

If you can have any kind of curtaining, or something, you can make a small hole at the ceiling, or slanted part, and drop the wires. They can run behind the projection screen. Or perhaps you can build a false wall. That would be nice. Wouldn't have to worry about wires nearly as much.

I presume you are budgeting for treatments. It's virtually impossible to go overkill with bass trapping. If you think about it, if you properly treat the room for reflections, you will be given more freedom in speaker placements. Because with untreated walls, you will more likely position the speakers with the room's reflective properties as an important determining factor.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Hi, I don't have much time right now to go over this whole thread, but a couple of little offerings:

If you can have any kind of curtaining, or something, you can make a small hole at the ceiling, or slanted part, and drop the wires. They can run behind the projection screen. Or perhaps you can build a false wall. That would be nice. Wouldn't have to worry about wires nearly as much.
I'm not sure I'm following exactly what you mean? Dropping the wires from the ceiling is OK, but how are they being routed to the back of the room or vise-versa, depending on where the run is started?
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Any ideas for blacking out windows? I don't think I've seen any responses on that.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I'm not sure I'm following exactly what you mean? Dropping the wires from the ceiling is OK, but how are they being routed to the back of the room or vise-versa, depending on where the run is started?
You got me there. Was trying to make it easier, but not necessarily easy.

Any ideas for blacking out windows? I don't think I've seen any responses on that.
Board em up? Better yet, maybe make some custom sized acoustic panels to fit in the spaces? Art? Movie posters? :D The one issue with movie posters, at least if they're framed with glass, is the reflective nature. I vote for acoustic treatments.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
My first reaction is to place the TV in front of this window with the mains on either side.



In this location, you will be able to use room treatments on the front wall and you may be able to get away with less treatment in the rest of the room. I would think it's best to be shooting sound along the angled ceiling rather that from the bottom of one angle into the angle on the opposite side.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
My first reaction is to place the TV in front of this window with the mains on either side.



In this location, you will be able to use room treatments on the front wall and you may be able to get away with less treatment in the rest of the room. I would think it's best to be shooting sound along the angled ceiling rather that from the bottom of one angle into the angle on the opposite side.
That's what I've decided to do. Also, I'd like to make some type of window treatment for the 3 windows in the room. There is one window directly behind the front soundstage, the other two windows are along the left and right walls. This would also serve as blackout for the windows. Curerently, there are no blinds or curtains in this room. Any ideas?
 
adk highlander

adk highlander

Sith Lord
We have used cellular shades from american blinds.com. They are great for temp control and make a blackout version. We have them in our bedroom and the keep the room very dark even on the brightest day.

Here is a link. They are all custom done to size and if you compare their prices to say Lowes they tend to be at least 50% cheaper. We use their house brand the the fit and contruction has been top notch. I'm going to get some for my theater very soon as well.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
We have used cellular shades from american blinds.com. They are great for temp control and make a blackout version. We have them in our bedroom and the keep the room very dark even on the brightest day.

Here is a link. They are all custom done to size and if you compare their prices to say Lowes they tend to be at least 50% cheaper. We use their house brand the the fit and contruction has been top notch. I'm going to get some for my theater very soon as well.
Those look nice, but how did your room respond to them? Reflective at all? Do you have any pics of these in your room?
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
We have used cellular shades from american blinds.com. They are great for temp control and make a blackout version. We have them in our bedroom and the keep the room very dark even on the brightest day.

Here is a link. They are all custom done to size and if you compare their prices to say Lowes they tend to be at least 50% cheaper. We use their house brand the the fit and contruction has been top notch. I'm going to get some for my theater very soon as well.
OK, maybe I jumped too soon on that last post. I just read where they are suppose to provide "...superior insulation and sound absorption".
 
adk highlander

adk highlander

Sith Lord
Those look nice, but how did your room respond to them? Reflective at all? Do you have any pics of these in your room?
I don't have them yet in the theater and it is in my basement (small windows) so they will have minimal effect on my room. I can say in our great room which is mostly windows they make a HUGE difference when they are up vs. down. I can take some pics of that room tonight if you want.

The ones in the great room are not the blackout versions but are of the same general construction.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I don't have them yet in the theater and it is in my basement (small windows) so they will have minimal effect on my room. I can say in our great room which is mostly windows they make a HUGE difference when they are up vs. down. I can take some pics of that room tonight if you want.

The ones in the great room are not the blackout versions but are of the same general construction.
What I am curious about is if the blackout version does blackout 100%. I mean, to do so, the blackout has to be perfectly flush. Any light bleeding through will most definitely take away from the FP experience. Otherwise, I assume it is completely opaque.

My guess is that it's very helpful, but not the golden bullet. I've got white translucent blinds, which are covered by thick burgundy curtain, that is certainly "covering" the entire window and more. Yet, I still suffer some ambient light during the day.

For my case, I think the blackout version with my existing curtains might do the trick. I'm just not sure if the blackout my themselves will do the job 100% for Soundman... but I've been wrong many times before....
 
adk highlander

adk highlander

Sith Lord
What I am curious about is if the blackout version does blackout 100%. I mean, to do so, the blackout has to be perfectly flush. Any light bleeding through will most definitely take away from the FP experience. Otherwise, I assume it is completely opaque.

My guess is that it's very helpful, but not the golden bullet. I've got white translucent blinds, which are covered by thick burgundy curtain, that is certainly "covering" the entire window and more. Yet, I still suffer some ambient light during the day.

For my case, I think the blackout version with my existing curtains might do the trick. I'm just not sure if the blackout my themselves will do the job 100% for Soundman... but I've been wrong many times before....
The nice thing about these is that they are custom measure and fit. I can take some photos of our bedroom that have these and they do give a very close fit to the edge. What I am bummed about is that they have a much more limited number of color choices then from when we ordered ours. Mine are a chocolate brown color and I don't see anything like that any longer. I'm going to get the model number from mine and give them a call tomorrow.
 
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