Attempt to build my own speakers!

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Tim897316

Enthusiast
Sup guys,
Pretty much... Im pissed that my speakers suck xD. But i dont wanna buy brand new speakers if im gonna budget for them. Id much rather build my own **** to my own specs... The problem is, where do i start? What am i gonna need hardware wise and what am i gonna need to put into account when i am building these things.


Thanks a lot

Tim
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I would stick with a kit unless you really know what you are doing and have the tools to do measurements so you can tweak the design to give you a good overall sound. Slapping drivers in a box with any old crossover typically doesn't yeild a good sounding speaker.

GR Research are excellent speakers, and the kits are incredibly good for the prices.
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
If it is your first DIY speaker build, I highly recommend a kit. Get a decent inexpensive kit to get your feet wet. After that, you can concentrate on the higher end build. There is much more to speaker building than meets the eye.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
What price range are we talking and are you going to be doing the wood work yourself? Some kits include the enclosures and others do not, only plans. On the cheap, the Dayton BR-1 kit I believe is on sale right now and would be a good starter kit (including enclosures).
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Kit or scratch

If you want to start with a kit, not a bad idea, I second the Thor kit. I have built them for two individuals. It is one of the finest speakers around.

If you want to start your own career, as a speaker builder. Start by educating yourself with these.

http://www.audioxpress.com/bksprods/products/bkaa67.htm

There seems to be an encouraging number of builders on this site. We are hear to help and guide. Contrary to popular belief, the home constructor can design some of the finest speakers available without paying for B & W or KEF to do the cabinetry, and pay freight on 360lb speakers. Leaning the science and art of speaker building is the best way to save big money on high end systems. You will learn an awful lot, and I have found it a totally adsorbing avocation for over 50 years. If you are inclined to roll your own, educate yourself and take the plunge.

I just guided an individual though building these. and he is absolutely thrilled with them.

http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/3191208#224564131
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
If you want to start with a kit, not a bad idea, I second the Thor kit. I have built them for two individuals. It is one of the finest speakers around.
How easy are these kits to build? I hear these speakers can compete with speakers costing up to $4000.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
How easy are these kits to build? I hear these speakers can compete with speakers costing up to $4000.
If you buy the built cabinets it is very straightforward. I installed crossovers, wiring, damping and drivers in less than an afternoon for a colleague.

When It built my father's in England I started with just the drivers and built the crossovers and cabinets and it took about a week.

TL enclosures have more complex carpentry than other enclosures, but not as bad as exponential horns. They are really worth the trouble. If you look at my threads you will see my views on the TL. If you really want uncolored sound these are for you. The TL reinforces the bass of these Exel drivers below 100 Hz 3 db above other alignments.

One other thing, I and others have noticed that subs really muddy things up and spoil things. My colleague used a Carver Sunfire, and results where less than optimal. The reason being the bass is so much better than anything else you likely have heard. If you want to preserve the purity and clarity and want a sub, you will have to design and build a TL sub.

This is not a shortcoming of the Thors, but a demonstration of the shortcomings of everything else. If you match and build a good TL sub of the quality of these Thors, I can assure you, you will have a better speaker system than anything that can be purchased.

These TLs were deigned according to the mathematical model of G.L.Auspurger. I believe his model to be valid.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Wow, going from the Dayton BR-1 kit to the Seas Thor kit in one thread!

I also second the idea that building a kit is a great way for someone to start out in DIY speaker building. I have known more than a few people who thought all it took was a circle saw, a Parts Express catalog, and an imagination to design a good speaker. Been there, done that, got the MDF scraps :rolleyes:.

The Thor kit is probably one of the best kits available. Madisound and Zalytron both sell the parts, plans, and prebuilt cabinets for it. I also second everything that TLS Guy says about bass response from TL cabinets.

Zalytron also sells a similar MTM kit, the Zeus, that uses the same Seas W18 magnesium drivers as in the Thor, in a similar TL cabinet, but uses a Hiquphon OWII ¾" dome tweeter instead of the Seas T25 1" dome. The OWII is a bit smoother sounding (in my opinion) and has wider dispersion at higher frequencies than the T25 tweeter. Both are premium tweeters, but the OWII costs a bit less and, arguably, performs better.
 

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