Atmos Upfiring Speaker Placement

[theonlysimon]

Hi,

I plan on setting up a 7.1.4 system but because of the door in my room, I have to put my L/R fronts fairly high and will unlikely be able to get a good angle to bounce the sound down to my seating position.

If I moved the upfiring speakers to the sides (and rears) would that be ok? (not in terms of possibility but in terms of how it would sound moving the atmos front stage to the middle of the room)

 

[}Fear_Inoculum{]

Do you have a picture or drawing of your room so we can see exactly what you're talking about? Ideally, you want your tweeters at ear level for L/R speakers, but sometimes you have to make compromises. A picture would help us to best determine an ideal solution to your conundrum.

 

[theonlysimon]

 

[theonlysimon]

The door is in the top right corner so that speaker will be mounted above the door.

Normally the Front R/L would have my upfiring atmos speakers but if I had the sides upfiring it'd therefore move the upfiring ceiling bounce points further forward to be level with where I am sitting.

 

[Kingnoob]

The door is in the top right corner so that speaker will be mounted above the door.

Normally the Front R/L would have my upfiring atmos speakers but if I had the sides upfiring it'd therefore move the upfiring ceiling bounce points further forward to be level with where I am sitting.

Pics or maybe a diagram 3D or showing it better might help . I’ve never used Atmos but I’m lost looking at that, you’re trying to a lot I don’t know how hard it is to angle those things. How do they Sound now?

 

[theonlysimon]

Pics or maybe a diagram 3D or showing it better might help . I’ve never used Atmos but I’m lost looking at that, you’re trying to a lot I don’t know how hard it is to angle those things. How do they Sound now?

I've not set it up yet, just planning at this stage. The red boxes are just where the L/R's will be, a standard 7.1 setup.

Essentially I will have 4x upfiring atmos speakers (built into the speakers). 2x atmos will be in the rears. The other 2 would normally be in the Front L/R but since those speakers will be raised I won't get a good angle to bounce sound down to my seating position.

So if I instead have upfiring speakers from the L/R side surrounds... it will in effect move what would normally be my front stage atmos to the middle of the room.

I'm wondering if that will make much difference?

 

[Wardog555]

You need to find the sweet spot for this to work effectively. I can't tell you where or how to place those speakers.
It's all about angles and the reflection. You will need to tweak the speaker angles and seating location to figure this out.

Are you open to having ceiling speakers instead?

 

[theonlysimon]

You need to find the sweet spot for this to work effectively. I can't tell you where or how to place those speakers.
It's all about angles and the reflection. You will need to tweak the speaker angles and seating location to figure this out.

Are you open to having ceiling speakers instead?

In ceiling is out I'm afraid.

Yeah I know I won't be able to get a good angle from my front L/R cos I have to mount them above my door.

I guess I'm just asking if moving the reflection points from somewhere ahead of my seating positioning to somewhere in line would make that much of a difference?

 

[Wardog555]

The whole point of 4 atmos speaker is for font to back and side to side positioning of the sounds.

I would have them to the front and behind the mlp.

Mounted to ceiling an option? If I say ceiling speakers. It doesn't mean only In ceiling.
I don't believe it's not an option though as if I'm able to have ceiling speakers how can you or others claim can't? It's just an excuse really.

Perhaps you can start with the Dolby atmos for studio guidelines document and start from there.

Best of luck!

 

[TLS Guy]

I've not set it up yet, just planning at this stage. The red boxes are just where the L/R's will be, a standard 7.1 setup.

Essentially I will have 4x upfiring atmos speakers (built into the speakers). 2x atmos will be in the rears. The other 2 would normally be in the Front L/R but since those speakers will be raised I won't get a good angle to bounce sound down to my seating position.

So if I instead have upfiring speakers from the L/R side surrounds... it will in effect move what would normally be my front stage atmos to the middle of the room.

I'm wondering if that will make much difference?

What will ruin this system is putting the right speaker above the door. You absolutely can NOT do that. If you do that the whole system is a total waste of money, and you might as well get a sound bar.

 

[theonlysimon]

What will ruin this system is putting the right speaker above the door. You absolutely can NOT do that. If you do that the whole system is a total waste of money, and you might as well get a sound bar.

Is there any way I can get around that?

 

[Kingnoob]

Is there any way I can get around that?

Without some pics we can’t say what’s going on. But you want maybe go look at Dolby guides while you’re at it.

 

[Chesapeake HT]

Can you move the tv to the other end of the room so the door is to the back/ rear soundstage? You didn’t provide room dimensions, but could you place the tv on the long wall and stage the speakers accordingly. That might be the best way to take the door out of your placement equation.

 

[TLS Guy]

Is there any way I can get around that?

Turn the room round 180 degrees.

 

[}Fear_Inoculum{]

Is there any way I can get around that?

Can you orientate the room differently? Also, is the opposite end of the room from the TV open, or a wall?

 

[j_garcia]

In ceiling isn't your only option - you can do on wall, down firing, which would work above your door if there is room.

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[Kingnoob]

In ceiling isn't your only option - you can do on wall, down firing, which would work above your door if there is room.

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Yeah except he wants to hang his left and right up there also. Op me be better served going 5.1ch or finding a way to properly place the speakers. He seems like goal is to shoehorn as many speakers in a room as possible, which didn’t turn out well for me in bedroom system when I tried it. Ofc I don’t have Atmos but 7.1ch can be too much sonic overload as surrounds were too close.

 

[dalotissac]

Hi,

I plan on setting up a 7.1.4 system Speed Test but because of the door in my room, I have to put my L/R fronts fairly high and will unlikely be able to get a good angle to bounce the sound down to my seating position.

If I moved the upfiring speakers to the sides (and rears) would that be ok? (not in terms of possibility but in terms of how it would sound moving the atmos front stage to the middle of the room)

I can't tell you where or how to place those speakers.
It's all about angles and the reflection. You will need to tweak the speaker angles and seating location to figure this out.

 

[Wardog555]

In ceiling isn't your only option - you can do on wall, down firing, which would work above your door if there is room.

SVS Prime Elevation Speaker | Speakers for Dolby Atmos & Home Theater

Best sounding home audio elevation speaker for Dolby Atmos, DTS:X and Auro-3D. Endless versatility as front, surround, center and/or LCR home theater speaker.

www.svsound.com

Only select conditions this would work.
When it's a minimum of 40 degrees elevation. Any lower and you won't have enough seperation between the two layers.

 

[j_garcia]

Only select conditions this would work.
When it's a minimum of 40 degrees elevation. Any lower and you won't have enough seperation between the two layers.

He has bigger issues if the speakers are going to all be on wall.