Arendal 1528 vs Klipsch RF-7 III

[Petrolhead]

*This is not a thread about hearing health and safety*

I would like some input on what to what to expect from a technical standpoint if upgrading from RF-7 to then1528’s. And yes I know they are not same category

I feel when i run the RF-7 hard and there is a lot of vocals it is hard on the tweeter and this seems to be delivering most of the sound given how they are crossed over, and I do not want to blow them. TLS Guy have been great help and in hindsight foresaw I would run in to this issue.

I want a bit more capacity then what I have now.

Recommendations are also welcome.

 

[flyboylr45]

Easy, RBH. In that price range, the 8300/PX or SFTR.

 

[Petrolhead]

Easy, RBH. In that price range, the 8300/PX or SFTR.

Thank you, what is your technical reasoning?

 

[Kingnoob]

*This is not a thread about hearing health and safety*

I would like some input on what to what to expect from a technical standpoint if upgrading from RF-7 to then1528’s. And yes I know they are not same category

I feel when i run the RF-7 hard and there is a lot of vocals it is hard on the tweeter and this seems to be delivering most of the sound given how they are crossed over, and I do not want to blow them. TLS Guy have been great help and in hindsight foresaw I would run in to this issue.

I want a bit more capacity then what I have now.

Recommendations are also welcome.

How loud of decibels are you listening can’t yet handle 150rms ? That’s prob 110+
Revel be maybe ? Or RBH suggested above .

 

[flyboylr45]

Mmm, I’ve heard the Klipsch and have spent a lot of time listening to RBH speakers. This is all subjective and my ears prefer the RBH. I don’t really know what you mean by “capacity”. Is it the ability to play loud? Do you mean the Klipsch sound ”bright” when pushed? On the Klipsch, the compression driver is doing the midrange and highs and when pushed hard you get thermal compression and they sound forward/harsh. On the RBH 8300/px for example, the (2) 6.5in midrange drivers handles voices and the tweeter only handles the highs. You have more, larger drivers sharing the load and you won’t get compression until probably your ears give up.

 

[ski2xblack]

The Arendals appear to have better engineering chops, with better overall linearity, better directivity index (more room friendly, more eq friendly), probably less dynamic compression when you're flogging them hard (that's a bit of a guess, though, but if I'm right it speaks to your concerns), cabs overbiult and robust. If I'm spending your money, I say go for it!

Edit: Erin has a review of the Arendals, but I couldn't find a proper Klippel nfs review on the Klipsch, so my comment about dynamics was based on Erin's review of the closest RP series, so, yeah, a guess.

Oh, and the Arendals are quite a bit less sensitive and somewhat low impedance. They're still bangers, with outstanding measured short and long term compression, but need more amp juice to do it.

 

[lovinthehd]

Curious, which of the various Arendal 1528s are you considering? The Tower 8 or ?

 

[Petrolhead]

Curious, which of the various Arendal 1528s are you considering? The Tower 8 or ?

Yes

 

[Petrolhead]

The Arendals appear to have better engineering chops, with better overall linearity, better directivity index (more room friendly, more eq friendly), probably less dynamic compression when you're flogging them hard (that's a bit of a guess, though, but if I'm right it speaks to your concerns), cabs overbiult and robust. If I'm spending your money, I say go for it!

Edit: Erin has a review of the Arendals, but I couldn't find a proper Klippel nfs review on the Klipsch, so my comment about dynamics was based on Erin's review of the closest RP series, so, yeah, a guess.

Oh, and the Arendals are quite a bit less sensitive and somewhat low impedance. They're still bangers, with outstanding measured short and long term compression, but need more amp juice to do it.

I believe you are right but I also believe they are less suited for lower volume. Getting another amp is not the biggest problem

 

[Kingnoob]

Mmm, I’ve heard the Klipsch and have spent a lot of time listening to RBH speakers. This is all subjective and my ears prefer the RBH. I don’t really know what you mean by “capacity”. Is it the ability to play loud? Do you mean the Klipsch sound ”bright” when pushed? On the Klipsch, the compression driver is doing the midrange and highs and when pushed hard you get thermal compression and they sound forward/harsh. On the RBH 8300/px for example, the (2) 6.5in midrange drivers handles voices and the tweeter only handles the highs. You have more, larger drivers sharing the load and you won’t get compression until probably your ears give up.

For 14 k vs what 6-7k for the Klipsch, ? I still think Klipsch should add a midrange or two if there asking so much for towers that are 2 ways ??

RBH - UNRIVALED 8300/PX - 3 x 8" 3-Way Tower Speaker (Pair)

The RBH UNRIVALED 8300/PX is a high-performance 3-way passive tower speaker designed to deliver exceptional audio quality.

soundapproach.com

 

[ski2xblack]

I don't see how they would be less suited for low volume. The Klipsch's accented highs might give them a slight loudness/"smiley" response curve, which might help when levels are low, but you pay the price when you turn it up. The Arendals otoh would benefit from a bit of loudness eq when levels are low, but they can most certainly sound good at low (and high) spls.

 

[lovinthehd]

I believe you are right but I also believe they are less suited for lower volume. Getting another amp is not the biggest problem

How does this less suited for lower volume thing work particularly?

 

[flyboylr45]

For 14 k vs what 6-7k for the Klipsch, ? I still think Klipsch should add a midrange or two if there asking so much for towers that are 2 ways ??

RBH - UNRIVALED 8300/PX - 3 x 8" 3-Way Tower Speaker (Pair)

The RBH UNRIVALED 8300/PX is a high-performance 3-way passive tower speaker designed to deliver exceptional audio quality.

soundapproach.com

That’s between you and your dealer.

 

[TLS Guy]

*This is not a thread about hearing health and safety*

I would like some input on what to what to expect from a technical standpoint if upgrading from RF-7 to then1528’s. And yes I know they are not same category

I feel when i run the RF-7 hard and there is a lot of vocals it is hard on the tweeter and this seems to be delivering most of the sound given how they are crossed over, and I do not want to blow them. TLS Guy have been great help and in hindsight foresaw I would run in to this issue.

I want a bit more capacity then what I have now.

Recommendations are also welcome.

*This is not a thread about hearing health and safety*

I would like some input on what to what to expect from a technical standpoint if upgrading from RF-7 to then1528’s. And yes I know they are not same category

I feel when i run the RF-7 hard and there is a lot of vocals it is hard on the tweeter and this seems to be delivering most of the sound given how they are crossed over, and I do not want to blow them. TLS Guy have been great help and in hindsight foresaw I would run in to this issue.

I want a bit more capacity then what I have now.

Recommendations are also welcome.

Of the two, I would go for the Arendal. However, you might want to cast a wider net.

The problem I see is just one mid with a low crossover. The crossover is in the optimal range for a three way, but really the design needs less woofers and one more mid in MTM configuration. In my view designers make strange choices and fail to understand how much power is required in the midrange. I find this continuing mistake among multiple manufacturers puzzling. Bass power is overestimated and midrange power continually under estimated.

 

[Kleinst]

My RF7iii's sound pretty good loud or otherwise. Wonder if it's more a how the room reacts with them. Those just seem to work in the room I have them in where others didn't. Either way. RF7, Arendals or RBH, I bet you would get some good speakers.

 

[Kingnoob]

That’s between you and your dealer.

Yeah I guess if you have one . But I can’t dream of affording either Anytime soon . Those are like a years pay at these terrible retail jobs , and minus another year or two pay for bills I already have . Maybe a brand like svs or paradigm with cheaper 3 ways is a better choice on little $$.
My current stuff wont last forever , klipsch icon is really basic and sounds good but fixing when it breaks will probably cost more than it’s worth z.. and I don’t know how to fix it myself .

 

[Kleinst]

Yeah I guess if you have one . But I can’t dream of affording either Anytime soon . Those are like a years pay at these terrible retail jobs , and minus another year or two pay for bills I already have . Maybe a brand like svs or paradigm with cheaper 3 ways is a better choice on little $$.
My current stuff wont last forever , klipsch icon is really basic and sounds good but fixing when it breaks will probably cost more than it’s worth z.. and I don’t know how to fix it myself .

Actually, it doesn't take an expensive setup to sound amazing however. My Infinity Reference setup sounds better than ANY setup I have. And the expensive ones I have I got used at crazy deals. Actually it's when I spent big ona set, it's the one I didn't like and I lost my ass on it The used market can provide insance deals. However, I'm lucky to live in a bigger metro city where there is often a lot listed on Marketplace.

 

[Kingnoob]

Actually, it doesn't take an expensive setup to sound amazing however. My Infinity Reference setup sounds better than ANY setup I have. And the expensive ones I have I got used at crazy deals. Actually it's when I spent big ona set, it's the one I didn't like and I lost my ass on it The used market can provide insance deals. However, I'm lucky to live in a bigger metro city where there is often a lot listed on Marketplace.

my Klipsch icon sound fine there just 13/15 years old now. not that I can’t bring down my cheaper stuff If they were to break , would repair be expensive?
And really loud for night listening, I often gotta go watch tv in another room with tv speakers.
Infinity is gone now , gotta spend a lot more for 3 ways if new .