Are there any receivers out with HDMI 2.1b or is that still way into the future?

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Tao1

Audioholic
Greetings,

I have been using an AV receiver to power speakers for a PC for years now. However, I recently made the mistake of buying a video card with only 1 HDMI port. The receiver only has HDMI 1.4 so I need to pass video directly to my TV, but I have issues with ARC.

Since I would be in the market to look for a new receiver, I may as well look for something with HDMI 2.1b to be sure I won't be replacing it well into the future. Are there any receivers with this spec yet? Even looking on Yamaha's site, it doesn't go into details of what spec the HDMI ports are on their products.

Thanks!
 
ban25

ban25

Audioholic
HDMI 2.1b doesn't bring much to the table relative to HDMI 2.1a. Just QMS, I think?

FWIW, the current line of Yamaha AVRs are a bit old (2021 vintage) and it may be worth holding out for a refresh if you're keen on having the latest and greatest.
 
T

Tao1

Audioholic
Thanks!

Taking a second look, the confusion seems to be that the HDMI Forums' 'new features' for 2.1b was just regurgitating all of the standard 2.1 features. One of many reasons why I can't stand marketing...
 
ban25

ban25

Audioholic
Thanks!

Taking a second look, the confusion seems to be that the HDMI Forums' 'new features' for 2.1b was just regurgitating all of the standard 2.1 features. One of many reasons why I can't stand marketing...
Yeah, current 40 Gbps HDMI 2.1 implementations like you'll find on Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, etc. will get you 8K60, 4K120, VRR, Dolby Vision, HDR10+, etc. *Some* niche implementations like in the McIntosh AVPs and potentially the Storm and Trinnov boxes (still researching), lack VRR support, which is unfortunate. Definitely stay far away from anything that's HDMI 2.0 only, as that does not support any high-frame-rate modes.
 
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kahun

Audiophyte
Greetings,

I have been using an AV receiver to power speakers for a PC for years now. However, I recently made the mistake of buying a video card with only 1 HDMI port. The receiver only has HDMI 1.4 so I need to pass video directly to my TV, but I have issues with ARC.

Since I would be in the market to look for a new receiver, I may as well look for something with HDMI 2.1b to be sure I won't be replacing it well into the future. Are there any receivers with this spec yet? Even looking on Yamaha's site, it doesn't go into details of what spec the HDMI ports are on their products. applebees

Thanks!
Hi! For HDMI 2.1b-capable AV receivers, options are currently limited, but some newer models from Denon, Yamaha, and Marantz offer HDMI 2.1 support. Check each brand’s product specs for exact HDMI version details, as it can vary by model.
 
-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic General
Greetings,

I have been using an AV receiver to power speakers for a PC for years now. However, I recently made the mistake of buying a video card with only 1 HDMI port. The receiver only has HDMI 1.4 so I need to pass video directly to my TV, but I have issues with ARC.

Since I would be in the market to look for a new receiver, I may as well look for something with HDMI 2.1b to be sure I won't be replacing it well into the future. Are there any receivers with this spec yet? Even looking on Yamaha's site, it doesn't go into details of what spec the HDMI ports are on their products.

Thanks!
Does your existing receiver have more than one HDMI out? If so use one for the PC monitor and another for the TV.

Just trying to be helpful.
 
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Tao1

Audioholic
Does your existing receiver have more than one HDMI out? If so use one for the PC monitor and another for the TV.

Just trying to be helpful.
It only has one, but that isn't the problem. If I want to use my TV (which is also the gaming monitor) at 4k 120Hz RGB 4:4:4 Full, I need HDMI 2.1, so I can't go through the receiver. I used to have one HDMI connection to the monitor and one HDMI connection to the receiver mainly for audio.

Now that I have only 1 HDMI out port, I was using ARC, but I didn't realize that it didn't transmit the full audio signal that HDMI normally does, and had a degraded experience in Dolby Digital +.

I did get a Pioneer VSX-935 since. The audio is much better, but I am having issues with eARC. When I alt-tab out of a game, the audio cuts out. It doesn't do this with the computer plugged in directly to the receiver). Seems to be the case that my LG C2 has a bad HDMI controller.

It is becoming quite the adventure!
 
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T

Tao1

Audioholic
Hi! For HDMI 2.1b-capable AV receivers, options are currently limited, but some newer models from Denon, Yamaha, and Marantz offer HDMI 2.1 support. Check each brand’s product specs for exact HDMI version details, as it can vary by model.
Thanks! I was looking at the Yamaha V6A, but it seems it will only do 24 Gbs which is half the HDMI 2.1 spec. I will take a closer look at Denon and Marantz, but I have to troubleshoot a few issues as I mentioned in the above post first. If the Pioneer works, I will keep it, but I think it has an issue with slight signal changes which causes it to cut out momentarily (audio switching from PCM to Atmos, etc)
 

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