Are Republican Presidents Bad for the Economy? Who knew?

[lp85253]

I didn't say that. On the other hand, FDR did not single-handedly design or implement all of the programs that we think were good ideas in the 1930s.

yeah you did , by insinuation.. and generality...FDR and LBJ are examples of true populist presidents implementing social and economic reform..every other prez in the last 100 years were conservatives or "moderate dems"... welcome to Biden, Bernie and AOC.. you're about to get a full dose of budget reconciliation aimed in favor oft the general public instead of rich guys and trust fund douches...good luck trying to normalize MTG's behavior ..

 

[Irvrobinson]

yeah you did , by insinuation.. and generality...FDR and LBJ are examples of true populist presidents implementing social and economic reform..every other prez in the last 100 years were conservatives or "moderate dems"... welcome to Biden, Bernie and AOC.. you're about to get a full dose of budget reconciliation aimed in favor oft the general public instead of rich guys and trust fund douches...good luck trying to normalize MTJ's behavior ..

Dead wrong. I've been warned before about not feeding trolls. When I get in the wrong mood I have a tendency to ignore that good advice. But you've convinced me to implement it.

 

[lp85253]

Dead wrong. I've been warned before about not feeding trolls. When I get in the wrong mood I have a tendency to ignore that good advice. But you've convinced me to implement it.

you are the stereotypical right wing snowflake front runner.. the democrats thank you for being the poster child for the reason to get out of the gop... peace skippy edit : btw i didn't troll you , you trolled my response to Swerd ....so there ya go....

 

[Irvrobinson]

According to this article, it’s true about almost any major indicator: gross domestic product, employment, incomes, productivity, even stock prices.

Although with stock prices, there are also plenty of examples of high stock prices when GDP and jobs growth were low. I believe that GDP and employment are better indicators of economic growth than Wall Street performance.

Stock prices have little correlation to the economy. Stock prices are a reflection of buyers' opinions of profitability, future growth, and corporate strategy. You can have relatively high unemployment and still have record stock prices, as we did in 2Q20. (Perfect example.) Employment is an indicator, but our current unemployment numbers don't take the labor participation rate into account, which is currently making a poor showing. I think the real problem is that for several decades after WWII the US was spoiled by economic dominance that was unsustainable as the rest of the world developed, especially countries with a much lower cost of labor. Those decades are over, and we need a better economic plan, and it starts with an education plan. At least Biden has some ideas, whereas the GOP has none, apparently. For the GOP, everyone is on their own. That won't work, IMO, if we want to compete better in the world.

 

[lp85253]

That's okay. That was me being polite.

history tells me you don't have that particular capability ....

 

[lovinthehd]

Thank you for supporting my conclusion.

Well more a reaction to your crediting drumph with unemployment numbers (and if he put pressure on them like he did covid, probably a pile of sh*t ).

 

[Irvrobinson]

Well more a reaction to your crediting drumph with unemployment numbers (and if he put pressure on them like he did covid, probably a pile of sh*t ).

My point was that he deserved little if any of the credit. You need to reread what I posted.

 

[lovinthehd]

My point was that he deserved little if any of the credit. You need to reread what I posted.

Glad you feel that way, but the post wasn't clear in that respect "still set an unemployment rate record low" but maybe you needed some smiley faces to drive home some sarcasm.....

 

[Irvrobinson]

Glad you feel that way, but the post wasn't clear in that respect "still set an unemployment rate record low" but maybe you needed some smiley faces to drive home some sarcasm.....

Amazing. Your bias so overwhelms you that you can’t even read a point you agree with without twisting it around if Trump is mentioned. It is a fact that in 2019 unemployment as measured by the feds hit a record low. It is also a fact that I believe and said Trump doesn’t deserve the credit he takes.

 

[lovinthehd]

Amazing. Your bias so overwhelms you that you can’t even read a point you agree with without twisting it around if Trump is mentioned. It is a fact that in 2019 unemployment as measured by the feds hit a record low. It is also a fact that I believe and said Trump doesn’t deserve the credit he takes.

It's not a very meaningful stat to begin with. My bias against drumphy is strong no doubt but don't see the "twisting". Stats can be manipulated as he did with things he agreed with/didn't agree with. Your post simply wasn't clear.

 

[Irvrobinson]

It's not a very meaningful stat to begin with. My bias against drumphy is strong no doubt but don't see the "twisting". Stats can be manipulated as he did with things he agreed with/didn't agree with. Your post simply wasn't clear.

And, to put the icing on the cake, now you’re advocating a conspiracy theory of manipulating data! That’s humorous. Conspiracy theories always fail because humans suck at keeping secrets.

 

[lp85253]

It's not a very meaningful stat to begin with. My bias against drumphy is strong no doubt but don't see the "twisting". Stats can be manipulated as he did with things he agreed with/didn't agree with. Your post simply wasn't clear.

it always ends up being a clash of personality with ol Irv.. he can't stop himself from projecting ...

 

[highfigh]

The piece had "A president has only limited control over the economy." and nobody is commenting on the effects caused by Congress while these Presidents were in office.

 

[lovinthehd]

The piece had "A president has only limited control over the economy." and nobody is commenting on the effects caused by Congress while these Presidents were in office.

Did you read the whole thread?

 

[highfigh]

Did you read the whole thread?

Yeah- I saw a lot of bickering about the effects of POTUS on things they don't control. Affect, yes- control, no.

 

[lovinthehd]

Yeah- I saw a lot of bickering about the effects of POTUS on things they don't control. Affect, yes- control, no.

The effect of makeup of Congress was also noted (as not being particularly important).

 

[lp85253]

Yeah- I saw a lot of bickering about the effects of POTUS on things they don't control. Affect, yes- control, no.

tell that to crazy Donny....edit: or better yet , tell that to the family of the capital policeman that got murdered ....

 

[highfigh]

tell that to crazy Donny....

Might as well mention it to Biden, too- last year, he said that executive orders were for dictators.

 

[highfigh]

The effect of makeup of Congress was also noted (as not being particularly important).

How is it not particularly important? If Clinton had an unfavorable Congress, not much would have been done and we know people consider him to be a successful POTUS.

 

[lovinthehd]

How is it not particularly important? If Clinton had an unfavorable Congress, not much would have been done and we know people consider him to be a successful POTUS.

In this study....I consider Clinton a more successful president than any republican since maybe Eisenhower.....and the republicans who attacked him over a blow job then accept the nonsense that Gingrich and the other poop Republican husbands go....meh.