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[Mikado463]

Putting an amplifier into a speaker before the (passive) crossovers is a powered speaker that is no different than other amplification. You get none of the benefits and still have to power your speaker externally.

OK, now I admit you have me confused as well ?? Why would you have to power the speaker externally, wouldn't one run I/C's to the speaker from a linestage / preamp ?

 

[Trell]

OK, now I admit you have me confused as well ?? Why would you have to power the speaker externally, wouldn't one run I/C's to the speaker from a linestage / preamp ?

A powered speaker would just have one built-in amplifier and passive crossovers after the amplifier while an active one would have an amplifier for each driver with the crossovers before the amplification.

 

[WaynePflughaupt]

I would think that if an amp is inside a speaker box or outside by itself or in an AVR and speaker uses crossover to the drivers after the internal or external amp, it is still a passive speaker. Active speakers use electronic crossovers before any amplification and not crossover parts after, just a direct wire to each driver from the amp.
But I've been known to be wrong, from time to time.

An active speaker has internal amplification, plain and simple. It can have a single amp with an internal passive crossover. Or, it can include an electronic crossover with separate amplifiers for each driver, making it a bi- or tri-amplified active speaker.

If that’s what you were saying...

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[Mikado463]

A powered speaker would just have one built-in amplifier and passive crossovers after the amplifier

Understood, re-read my post and what I quoted of yours........ so, why does one then still need external amplification with this example ?

 

[Verdinut]

Active speakers use electronic crossovers before any amplification and not crossover parts after, just a direct wire to each driver from the amp.
But I've been known to be wrong, from time to time.

Some active speakers don't automatically contain an electronic crossover. They could still use a passive crossover to divide frequencies between drivers.

Personally, I don't like the active adjective for speakers. I prefer the use of powered as adjective, since speaker drivers are inherently resistive.

 

[Trell]

The difference between passive vs active vs powered speaker/monitor is not something new.

Here's a link to an old article from 2003 in SoundOnSound on that subject:

>>>It may seem like a stupid question, but what do the specifications 'active' and 'passive' denote for monitors? Does 'powered' mean the same as 'active'? [And article continues answering this]<<<

Q. What's the difference between active and passive monitors?

What do the specifications 'active' and 'passive' denote for monitors? Does 'powered' mean the same as 'active'?

www.soundonsound.com

 

[mtrycrafts]

An active speaker has internal amplification, plain and simple. It can have a single amp with an internal passive crossover. Or, it can include an electronic crossover with separate amplifiers for each driver, making it a bi- or tri-amplified active speaker.

If that’s what you were saying...

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

Well, on line descriptions would call a speaker with an amp in it as a powered speaker and differentiates active or passive what the crossover is with passive parts after amplification or an electronic crossover that is before an amplifier and no passive crossover after amplification. Plain and simple.

 

[mtrycrafts]

OK, now I admit you have me confused as well ?? Why would you have to power the speaker externally, wouldn't one run I/C's to the speaker from a linestage / preamp ?

Active or passive is associated with the crossover network, not where the amp is located. You can certainly have one amp in a speaker, powered, with a passive crossover and still call it a passive speaker. Powered speakers eliminate the so called vagaries of a speaker cable of X length but still not benefits from an electronic crossover before amplification.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Some active speakers don't automatically contain an electronic crossover. They could still use a passive crossover to divide frequencies between drivers.

Personally, I don't like the active adjective for speakers. I prefer the use of powered as adjective, since speaker drivers are inherently resistive.

Those speakers would be a powered speaker if an amp is inside not outside.

 

[WaynePflughaupt]

Well, on line descriptions would call a speaker with an amp in it as a powered speaker and differentiates active or passive what the crossover is with passive parts after amplification or an electronic crossover that is before an amplifier and no passive crossover after amplification. Plain and simple.

Some on-line descriptions differentiate. Many don't. IMO the whole thing is senseless - just spliting hairs.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt