Anyone know about Denon 1200 turntables?

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Someone in town is aking $400 for this unit.

 

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One more pic

 

[highfigh]

I'm not sure I would pay that much for a turntable with a speed control circuit of any complexity. I'm sure it's a good table but if the speed control goes out, it will be hard to A) find someone with a schematic, B) find someone who can actually repair it and C), you'll end up with an expensive paper weight. Any new turntable worth anything will control its speed well enough and it may have a more inert base. The Denon's base isn't dampened at all and that makes it prone to feedback and ringing.

 

[TLS Guy]

I'm not sure I would pay that much for a turntable with a speed control circuit of any complexity. I'm sure it's a good table but if the speed control goes out, it will be hard to A) find someone with a schematic, B) find someone who can actually repair it and C), you'll end up with an expensive paper weight. Any new turntable worth anything will control its speed well enough and it may have a more inert base. The Denon's base isn't dampened at all and that makes it prone to feedback and ringing.

Unfortunately we are going to need turntables with tight speed control in future.

We have this disgrace starting as soon as next week.

For over 70 years the grid has been tightly controlled to 60 Hz.

Now it is too expensive and we have one more sign we are headed to the ranks of third world.

The real culprit is those useless windmills. It is a dirty secret that the power used to keep them in sync makes them produce little if or no power to the grid over time. In fact in low or now wind situations they draw a large amount of power from the grid.

Wind turbine farms are a total nonsense and blind alley.

Now to use our vintage turntables, like my Garrard 301s I will have to build or invest in 60 Hz oscillators to power them.

So if this goes through and I don't doubt it will, then all turntables are going to require complex speed regulation.

Only my Thorens TD 125 Mk II has that. So I will need to modify my Garrards, Thorens TD 150 and my Brenell Mk 6 tape recorder.

The Revox tape machines have a square wave oscillator and Hall effect feed back to control speed.

This will be a very bad deal for a lot of turntable owners.

By the way, I would leave that Denon alone. Far eastern turntables have never impressed me and the arm on that unit is very crude.

If you want a vintage turntable look for a Thorens TD 125 with an SME arm, preferably a series three.

 

[highfigh]

Unfortunately we are going to need turntables with tight speed control in future.

We have this disgrace starting as soon as next week.

For over 70 years the grid has been tightly controlled to 60 Hz.

Now it is too expensive and we have one more sign we are headed to the ranks of third world.

The real culprit is those useless windmills. It is a dirty secret that the power used to keep them in sync makes them produce little if or no power to the grid over time. In fact in low or now wind situations they draw a large amount of power from the grid.

Wind turbine farms are a total nonsense and blind alley.

Now to use our vintage turntables, like my Garrard 301s I will have to build or invest in 60 Hz oscillators to power them.

So if this goes through and I don't doubt it will, then all turntables are going to require complex speed regulation.

Only my Thorens TD 125 Mk II has that. So I will need to modify my Garrards, Thorens TD 150 and my Brenell Mk 6 tape recorder.

The Revox tape machines have a square wave oscillator and Hall effect feed back to control speed.

This will be a very bad deal for a lot of turntable owners.

By the way, I would leave that Denon alone. Far eastern turntables have never impressed me and the arm on that unit is very crude.

If you want a vintage turntable look for a Thorens TD 125 with an SME arm, preferably a series three.

That's just stupid! How can they possibly justify abandoning maintenance of 60 Hz when so much electrical equipment needs it to preform as designed?

I should have been more specific- I would avoid spending that amount on an old turntable with a complex speed control since the number of people who service electronics is decreasing, the manufacturers don't support their products they way they once did and it's not a collector's item.

 

[bikdav]

I Remember It

Yea, I remember this turntable. I used one at a speaker company that I worked at for a short while. It was great for what it was, but _ like other turntables _ you had to keep speakers away from it. It was no better damped than others in its class.
Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a great unit. But, considering how old it probably is now, I don't feel that it's worth anywhere near this asking price.

 

[highfigh]

Yea, I remember this turntable. I used one at a speaker company that I worked at for a short while. It was great for what it was, but _ like other turntables _ you had to keep speakers away from it. It was no better damped than others in its class.
Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a great unit. But, considering how old it probably is now, I don't feel that it's worth anywhere near this asking price.

You didn't work for Avid, did you?

 

[bikdav]

You didn't work for Avid, did you?

No, I was at Cizek for a short time {part of a summer}. They had one of these. If I remember correctly, it had a Signet TK-7E cartridge on it.