.....you never know, Shokhead, you just never know....you MIGHT find someone who owned a pair of 16-46 plus's who gave the cylinder subs to his son-in-law, and two months later, when the subs were solidly out of warranty, one of the plus drivers may have taken a dump....the son-in-law might be in his mid-twenties and cranked the subs loud enough to be felt in China, who knows?....the son-in-law may say he didn't crank them with 1000 watts of headroom, each, but then again, the son-in-law might be in his mid-twenties, and have a different conception of what the work cranked may mean....you MAY, Shokhead, find someone who then sent an email to Tom Vodhanel at SVS saying he had a woofer blow in one of the 16-46 plus's, and understands it was out of warranty, and wants to get another one, and fully understands he will get to pay full price for it since it was out of warranty, and is glad to do so considering he feels like he already owes SVS MUCH....Tom then, may have said a replacement woofer will be shipped that day, and to put the broken one back in the box when the new one is received, send it back, and there will be NO charge.....we're not done yet....after a week, the woofer may not have shown up yet, and another email might have been sent to Tom, and Tom may have said he would check into it....ten minutes later, Tom may have emailed back saying he checked, and the plus woofer may have not been sent to the correct address, and another will be shipped that day....the new plus woofer may have showed the next day shipped overnight, what a guy, what a company, and you may find someone that thinks SVS is the best thing going since sliced bread....I don't know, Shokhead, I just don't know, but if you look long and hard enough, you MAY find someone who can give a glowing report of the customer service department of SVS....stranger things have happened....I'll put out some feelers and get back....hee-haw.......