Any photos of Bose inards?

[Mr.BBQ]

Aww come on guys, those tweets are at least 80 cents.

Those are some really intresting pictures though, you have to notice how little glue they used, with the tops and bottoms of edges seemingly glue free....But what do I know.

 

[rtcp]

The very top of the speaker is made of a thin(1/4" or maybe 3/8") piece of HDF which resonates just right to make the snares on my snare drum sing.

 

[hemiram]

I have to admit, I have seen a lot worse, and a lot better, of course!

The wiring reminds me of some other speakers I took apart, even the crappy woofer looks the same. I can't remember what brand they were, but they were junk. It was one of those "racks" that they made years ago, a receiver, tape deck, turntable, CD player and a lot of times an Equilizer, a rack and two large for the price speakers with 12" woofers, and really sloppy bass.

I wonder if Bose has them made for them by someone else?

If you look at cassette decks from the mid seventies to the mid eighties on some of the "classic audio" websites, it's pretty amazing how many of them appear to be slightly modified Panasonic/Technics decks. I've opened some of them up, dead and working, and it's not just appearance, they ARE Technics decks with different front panels and names on them! I would bet that half of the decent quality decks are Panasonic built, regardless of brand on them.

My nearly 30 year old Technics deck still works perfectly, and the one I bought in 1972 worked fine until the takeup reel motor died at 27 years young. I took it apart down to parts, and then went to Goodwill a month later, and saw a very rough looking, but fully operational one sitting on the shelf for 10 bucks!

 

[Mr.BBQ]

I have to admit, I have seen a lot worse, and a lot better, of course!

The wiring reminds me of some other speakers I took apart, even the crappy woofer looks the same. I can't remember what brand they were, but they were junk. It was one of those "racks" that they made years ago, a receiver, tape deck, turntable, CD player and a lot of times an Equilizer, a rack and two large for the price speakers with 12" woofers, and really sloppy bass.

I wonder if Bose has them made for them by someone else?

If you look at cassette decks from the mid seventies to the mid eighties on some of the "classic audio" websites, it's pretty amazing how many of them appear to be slightly modified Panasonic/Technics decks. I've opened some of them up, dead and working, and it's not just appearance, they ARE Technics decks with different front panels and names on them! I would bet that half of the decent quality decks are Panasonic built, regardless of brand on them.

My nearly 30 year old Technics deck still works perfectly, and the one I bought in 1972 worked fine until the takeup reel motor died at 27 years young. I took it apart down to parts, and then went to Goodwill a month later, and saw a very rough looking, but fully operational one sitting on the shelf for 10 bucks!

Yeah, Technics makes some good stuff. Whenever I see a newer one I think to myself "Im probably gonna see that thing 20 odd years from now at a yardsale."

 

[hemiram]

I'm kind of sad to see them kind of dissapear, you don't see much Panasonic stuff out there anymore, and the Technics name is gone apparently. I heard one of the Bose set ups playing at Sam's Club yesterday. I don't know how they sell any of them...

 

[Hi Ho]

you don't see much Panasonic stuff out there anymore

Where have you been? Panasonic makes some of the nicest displays, camcorders and DVD recorders around. They also make some very nice DVD players and car audio heat units. Panasonic hasn't dissapeared.

 

[Audioholics]

Panasonic is also one of the few manufacturers of plasma glass... I believe Fujitsu and Toshiba (amongst others) use Panasonic glass for some of their displays.

 

[hemiram]

Where have you been? Panasonic makes some of the nicest displays, camcorders and DVD recorders around. They also make some very nice DVD players and car audio heat units. Panasonic hasn't dissapeared.

I meant home audio, not all the other stuff. Sorry I was unclear.

 

[Hi Ho]

Yeah, they need to catch up on the audio front. I have a Pansonic receiver and it is decent but not great. I'm upgrading to a Yamaha soon.

 

[caupina]

Let me ask you something guys???. Does any other brand here get bad reviews or is it just a Bose-hating kind of thing???? Every time Bose comes up is bashing all over the place. I told you, I'm a Bose guy. They might not be the best speakers out there, they might be way overpriced (even though I didn't pay much for mine), I couldn't care less what they are made of, all it matters to me is that they sound great to my wife and me (I'm listening to the Jim Hall Quartet "All across the city" SACD now), and we're enjoying every bit of it.

 

[hemiram]

Well, to me they all have an odd "artificial" sound, that no matter what is done with them, sounds quite right, with only one exception. I heard 4 901s, suspended from the roof beams in a large room, and it sounded ok. Not great, but ok.


I have had several friends that have had them over the years, and they liked them ok, until they heard some decent speakers side by side, and soon the kids or parents got the Bose's, and they moved up to a "conventional" set of speakers. If they don't "bug" you, don't worry about it...

 

[Audioholics]

all it matters to me is that they sound great to my wife and me (I'm listening to the Jim Hall Quartet "All across the city" SACD now), and we're enjoying every bit of it.

That's cool. Don't let anyone take that away from you. The "change" usually occurs when people pay full retail (you didn't) and then hear another system in close proximity to their cubes/bass module combo... Ruins them for cube speakers forever.

 

[Resident Loser]

Don't let it...

Let me ask you something guys???. Does any other brand here get bad reviews or is it just a Bose-hating kind of thing???? Every time Bose comes up is bashing all over the place. I told you, I'm a Bose guy. They might not be the best speakers out there, they might be way overpriced (even though I didn't pay much for mine), I couldn't care less what they are made of, all it matters to me is that they sound great to my wife and me (I'm listening to the Jim Hall Quartet "All across the city" SACD now), and we're enjoying every bit of it.

...bug ya...I've had my room-equalized 901-lls since '75 and have never felt compelled to look further...I've also owned 301-lls used as rears in an ambience-recovery system...101s as bedroom speakers...and a Wave Radio won in promotional giveaway (a little too pricey for a clock radio IMO)...although it sounds pretty good for it's size.

Funny thing is, given the huge trade-offs involved in the production of the majority of program material, people find a further manipulation of sound (whether by physical design of the Direct/Reflecting aspects or further equalization) to be anathema...

jimHJJ(...you may wanna' duck...)

 

[mustang_steve]

Let me ask you something guys???. Does any other brand here get bad reviews or is it just a Bose-hating kind of thing???? Every time Bose comes up is bashing all over the place. I told you, I'm a Bose guy. They might not be the best speakers out there, they might be way overpriced (even though I didn't pay much for mine), I couldn't care less what they are made of, all it matters to me is that they sound great to my wife and me (I'm listening to the Jim Hall Quartet "All across the city" SACD now), and we're enjoying every bit of it.

Good for you man!

I just personally think they are way over-priced, and wish they would update their design some....I think going to co-axials instead of full-range drivers would be a huge benefit to these speakers.

That's where most of the audiophiles get their grudge against Bose from, is a blend of price, and how little they have changed in decades while still demnading high prices for their gear.

 

[caupina]

Yeah!!! It does bug me all this not because of the brand itself but because when you read all the Bose reviews in this forum you get the feeling that the buyers are complete morons wasting a lot of money and I don't think that's the case (not in my "narrow" view). As far as design and price go, well the same thing could be said about Harleys (I own a Honda CBR954RR). People are willing to pay a lot of money (which in my opinion could be better spent) on a design that's pretty much old and expensive, but that doesn't make them any stupider, I just let them be, in the end if they're happy, that's all it matters. I don't go preaching about Bose high quality equipment, and if somebody finds my speakers appealing I just tell them I bought them for a good price (Bose 701 SII for USD400/pair) and my experience with Bose (10 years) has been good all this time. Every time somebody mentions the intention of buying Bose, you all tell him to get away from them, why don't let him decide, just give them the real facts: they might be overpriced, their quality might not be any better than other speaker brands, but go ahead and LISTEN for yourself, in the end it's your money and your choice.

 

[Hi Ho]

In the end it's all about what sounds good to you. Most people on this forum don't like Bose because of the fact that they charge exhorbitant prices. I, for one, don't like the fact that they sued Consumer Reports for giving them a bad review. I have done many comparisons between Bose and other products that cost much less and, to me, Bose is inferior to nearly all other reputable speaker brands. Sound is completely subjective, you don't know what you miss until you hear something better side by side. It's simply not possible to get the same amount of clarity, detail, and dynamic range from a full range untreated paper cone speaker as you can from a two or three way system with dome tweeters, more substantial woofers, and high quality crossovers.

That's just me. Many people are perfectly happy with Bose. I'm not going to judge them.

 

[caupina]

I don't own the little cubes, I have a pair of floor standing speakers. But the fact still remains the same, in your opinion Bose sucks big time, but my opinion is different. I don't have any doubts that there might be better speaker brands out there but that doesn't mean I'm going to like them any better (beauty is the "ear" of the beholder as somebody said),but why drive people away from Bose without giving them the chance to listen to them first???? In my opinion that's wrong. Personal preferences are that: preference and personal, and my opinions are based on that just like yours but I don't "warn" people away about the choices they're about to make, I tell them decide for yourself and I don't certainly categorize people on the basis of their personal preferences, which it seems to me that's the case when it comes to Bose.

 

[Sheep]

I don't own the little cubes, I have a pair of floor standing speakers. But the fact still remains the same, in your opinion Bose sucks big time, but my opinion is different. I don't have any doubts that there might be better speaker brands out there but that doesn't mean I'm going to like them any better (beauty is the "ear" of the beholder as somebody said),but why drive people away from Bose without giving them the chance to listen to them first???? In my opinion that's wrong. Personal preferences are that: preference and personal, and my opinions are based on that just like yours but I don't "warn" people away about the choices they're about to make, I tell them decide for yourself and I don't certainly categorize people on the basis of their personal preferences, which it seems to me that's the case when it comes to Bose.

I think the only way for you to understand where the "audiophiles" are coming from is to literally listen to another pair of speakers that costs the same amount as your Bose speakers side by side. Woo, deep breath.

Thats how I did it. Compared 701s to Athena AS-F1s and there was no contest.

SheepStar

 

[Hi Ho]

The Bose 701's went face to face with others in their price range in THIS review. They didn't do very well.

 

[j_garcia]

Not too many other speaker makers charge thousands of dollars for $100 (if that) speakers that don't even sound that good... THAT is why Bose is so hated.