Anti-Glare Screen for Mitsubishi WD-52525?

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Maynard

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My new 52" Mitsubishi DLP WD-52525 has the high glare screen that I have heard many people to complain about. I admit that the glare is bad in the wrong setting. Fortunately my TV is in the basement which is pretty dark, even during the daytime. Besides, most of my viewing will be at night.

I am wondering if anyone knows whether Mitsubishi makes an anti-glare screen that can instead be put on this WD-52525 model? I know that the WD-52725 comes with an anti-glare screen. But I do not know whether they make one that can be changed out on the WD-52525.

Second question... I know that the protective screen can be removed my my WD-52525. I have not tried that yet. I was wondering what peoples opinions are related to the quality with versus without the protective (high glare) screen on? One guy at the store told me the picture is worse with the protective screen removed. But one guy on the internet wrote that he thinks the picture quality is much better with the protective screen removed. Any opinions?
 
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NetGeek

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Maynard said:
My new 52" Mitsubishi DLP WD-52525 has the high glare screen that I have heard many people to complain about. I admit that the glare is bad in the wrong setting. Fortunately my TV is in the basement which is pretty dark, even during the daytime. Besides, most of my viewing will be at night.

I am wondering if anyone knows whether Mitsubishi makes an anti-glare screen that can instead be put on this WD-52525 model? I know that the WD-52725 comes with an anti-glare screen. But I do not know whether they make one that can be changed out on the WD-52525.

Second question... I know that the protective screen can be removed my my WD-52525. I have not tried that yet. I was wondering what peoples opinions are related to the quality with versus without the protective (high glare) screen on? One guy at the store told me the picture is worse with the protective screen removed. But one guy on the internet wrote that he thinks the picture quality is much better with the protective screen removed. Any opinions?

I just removed the protective screen on my 57" Sony RPTV yesterday; man what a difference! The ammount of glare has been reduced to almost nothing where before I could hardly watch it during the day because of the glare. If you don't have kids or pets go for it; it will make a huge difference.
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

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This looks interesting. As Leprkon may recall I have serious reflections going on with my Toshiba 56H80. $200 would be a no brainer in my case. But I may be upgrading my set within the next year, once HD or BD DVD players are out and they confirm my worst fear. That they will not transmit an HD signal over component cables. :mad: If anyone else has any information or experiences with this product please pass it along.
 
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Leprkon

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check back in a week or so, Duff. I'll try and get some before/after pics. With three grand already tied up in the box, I guess it's worth 10 % of that to be able to (hopefully) use it during the daytime...
 
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Leprkon

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Well this took alot more than a week but I have to say the results are very impressive. Apparently, Mighty Shield does not have a certified installer in the Oklahoma City area, so they had to find a sub-contractor.

Quick review.. the item was $ 265 plus tax installed. web site is http//mightyshield.com

The Mighty Shield is actually a .100 inch thick piece of Optix acrylic by a company called Plaskolite (first pop you find on google). If you can find a distributor for the sheet in your area and are any good with a power driver, you'll save a bundle.

The two pics below were taken under basically identically conditions (late afternoon, all window shades open). In the first which is without the shield (but with the original high-glare Mitsu protective screen in place), you can pretty much see all the way behind me. I was basically stuck using the three thousand dollar TV only when it got dark. :eek:

The second pic was taken from exactly the same position. While there is still alot of light in the screen, you can not see any objects. When the TV is on, you can see what's in the picture very clearly. :)

I'd say it was a good deal at $ 265 and probably fantastic for any DIY'ers
 

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richardfaust

Audiophyte
Mighty Shield for TV screen Glare Problems

I found a distributor in my area for Optix acrylic by Plaskolite. I'm just wondering if anyone has actually tried this and what your impressions are. Taking off the old screen doesn't seem so difficult. I'm just wondering what the end result will look like. Is the picture just as clear as the regular glass? How tough is the Optix Acrylic? I have a 2 year old boy. If he's anything Like I was as a kid I'm sure he's gonna break things....I just don't want it to be my new $3k Mitsubishi WD-52525! Hey anyone with any thoughts on this please email me. I'd be very greatful for your advice!

thanks,

Rich
 
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Leprkon

Audioholic General
Rich,

the company had a local TV repairman install the Mighty Shield for me. He popped off the speaker cover, undid the screws over the projector tube cover, and disconnected two wires connectors that hold the display screen. The main frame for the screen lifts off off two brackets on the sides. Eight more screws on two L-brackets hold the top of the frame to the rest. The frame has two channels, one for the cover and one for the display screen. You pull the top off and slide the old screen cover out, then slide the new one in. Reverse for assembly.

The screen was pre-cut to size, so it depends on how good you are on DIY as to whether you should just buy a sheet and cut it.

The longest part of the process was peeling the protective paper off the acrylic (the non-glare side is very adhesive-friendly). Use some cotton gloves when handling the acrylic, as it will show fingerprints very well. Use a lint-free cloth, not a paper towel, with Windex if you need to clean spots. Paper towel residue will show in your picture (according to the repair guy). He was inside the house all of 20 minutes.

The picture was slighly softer and had a little less contrast than before. I spent about 10 minutes with one of the THX optimizer disks getting it lined back out. I spent another 10 minutes running a full convergence alignment.

That same afternoon (daylight throught the movie), I ran the most recent version of Resident Evil (the HD-mastered edition, not the Superbit version) on DVD with component video cables. The movie is notorious for tiny computer read-outs on the sides of the TV (where it has the most trouble with accurate focusing). I could easily read every print-out I had been able to before. There were some parts of the film with very low changes in contrast that appeared somewhat grainy. The window shades were slightly closed but there no glare at all.

I also turned on my chandolier in a perfectly dark room (you can see it hanging in the glarey picture). Nine bulbs 40 watts each made a small highlight in the screen with no picture, but no distracting objects. By the way, the windows you see in the picture are just under forty feet away from the screen, so it's not like there was a blazing sun parked just behind the sofa. There is a length-wise pool table and dining room between the back of the sofa and the windows. And there is a 16 foot porch over the windows themselves.

The next day I watched the Moody Blues DVD from the Royal Albert Hall and Streets of Fire, a movie from the early 80's. These two have alot of low-contrast lighting (Streets of Fire is shot mostly in the dark and is showing its age while the Moody Blues has alot of concert lighting that no doubt affected the initial focus as well) showed a very slight amount of graineyness as the afternoon turned to darkness at a viewing distance of about 8 feet. About two feet further back, the graineyness completely disappeared.

It seemed to take a day or two for the display screen to settle back into the tracks. I have since watched Pitch Black and a couple of broadcast HDTV PBS specials with no problems at all.


In normal contrast conditions, the movies were as good or better than with the older glare screen in place. I would say the TV faithfully reproduces a quality picture (as in the fairly-recent Pitch Black), but does nothing to hide the defects in a poorer quality signal, which is more noticeable in a darker room. Now that the screen has had a chance to settle, I'l run another convergence alignment and see if anything improves.

The older screen appears to be about an eighth of an inch thick, and the newer screen about a tenth. The newer screen cover has a little bit more flexibility and might actually better stand up to smaller impacts than the older screen cover, as far as the cover breaking. It might be a little less protective of the display screen, but there is about an inch between the screen cover and the display screen and I was really surprised how flexible the display itself was.

Is it as good as my Sony 42 inch Grand Wega rear-projection LCD (the one fed with an up-converting DVD player using an HDMI feed) ? No. Is it as good as the Mitsu was originally ? I would have to say yes.

Now the big question... Is it as good in the DAYTIME as the old Mitsu ? Let's just say football season can't get here fast enough !!! :D

Update: did a second convergence alignment. pretty minor, but the display screen did settle some. Watched the Fifth Element. No sign of any graineyness, even in a fully dark room. I'm very satisfied with the final results. :)
 
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Duffinator

Duffinator

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Great post Leprkon. Looks to be a huge difference from your pictures. I'm going to see if I can source the plastic locally and do it myself. If I can find it I'll post my results.

Did you clean your lenses while you had the screen off? If so what did you use to clean them?

Thanks again.
 
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Leprkon

Audioholic General
Duff,

the tech didn't clean the lenses.

Good luck with the project. :)
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

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Anybody else know how to clean the lenses? My set is over 4 years old and I'm sure they need cleaning. I guess a soft cotton cloth and windex? :confused:
 
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Leprkon

Audioholic General
here's one final pic for you Duff. I put the old screen up against the left half of the TV. see for yourself.
 

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Duffinator

Duffinator

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Wow, what a difference. I've already tracked down the plastic here in Sactown. Probably the weekend of the 21st will be the day. I'll post before and after pictures when I'm done.
 
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