Amp suggestions

[MUDSHARK]

just wondering where you saw this? I've been thinking about buying an xls402 for audio and have thus far heard almost exclusively good things about them.

I found one small thread although I have read other longer ones in the past.

http://forums.soundandvisionmag.com/audiovideo/board/message?board.id=40&message.id=44385&query.id=95157#M44385

 

[cbraver]

I don't really care what you read. I have both, and have taken them apart for inspection. It's no contest. The Behringer is superior in many respects: It has better connectors(the banana connectors on the Crown are not even the correct standard size -- causing loose connection -- and the wire hole does not accept 12AWG size wire), far superior quality PCBs(the Behringer uses high grade glass expoxy with redundant circuits traces with the components soldered to each trace layer individually, the crown has standard low grace PCBs with single traces), far superior cooling system(the Behringer maximizes air current heat removal - where as the Crown does not), and far superior basic PCB/heatsink integration(the Crown has the output transistor heatsinks mounted on top of the PCBs -- a real risk for damage to the PCBs in circumstance of physical shock). The Behringers are also designed to operate into a larger variety of loads.

Now, are the Crown XLS units considered good amps? Sure. For fixed installations. I can not fault them for performance. But they are not of the same build/engineering quality as the Behringer EP amplifiers.

-Chris

You make them sound like junk. Haha. I mean, they are THX Certified for cinema and mix studios ...

http://www.thx.com/products/professional/pdf/ApprovedEquipList.pdf

 

[tgoyette]

I don't really care what you read. I have both, and have taken them apart for inspection. It's no contest. The Behringer is superior in many respects: It has better connectors(the banana connectors on the Crown are not even the correct standard size -- causing loose connection -- and the wire hole does not accept 12AWG size wire), far superior quality PCBs(the Behringer uses high grade glass expoxy with redundant circuits traces with the components soldered to each trace layer individually, the crown has standard low grace PCBs with single traces), far superior cooling system(the Behringer maximizes air current heat removal - where as the Crown does not), and far superior basic PCB/heatsink integration(the Crown has the output transistor heatsinks mounted on top of the PCBs -- a real risk for damage to the PCBs in circumstance of physical shock). The Behringers are also designed to operate into a larger variety of loads.

Now, are the Crown XLS units considered good amps? Sure. For fixed installations. I can not fault them for performance. But they are not of the same build/engineering quality as the Behringer EP amplifiers.

-Chris

Considering all that and the fact that they cost about 100 bucks less than the xls 402 it seems like a no-brainer. The only flaw or fault I can find with the behringer is the rather weak 1 yr warranty. If the quality of the components are as you say, however, it shouldn't matter.

 

[ougrad02]

Sorry it took me a bit to post back. As of right now I'm using the 422 intimus speakers from aperion. I may send back the fronts and center to upgrade to the 532 fronts and 533 vac for the center. Either way I'm wondering if at this price point for speakers am I just wasting money on unneeded amps?

As far as my listening habits I listen to a mix of music and ht. The listening distance is 10 feet from the fronts and center.

Thanks for the help.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Sorry it took me a bit to post back. As of right now I'm using the 422 intimus speakers from aperion. I may send back the fronts and center to upgrade to the 532 fronts and 533 vac for the center. Either way I'm wondering if at this price point for speakers am I just wasting money on unneeded amps?

As far as my listening habits I listen to a mix of music and ht. The listening distance is 10 feet from the fronts and center.

Thanks for the help.

I did a quick look at aperion but they seem to have different packages. The 532 I saw was 8 ohms and 91/2 sensitivity in room, so I just don't see much of an issue driving these with that Yam alone.