Adding an Amp to Reciever(multi-ch or stereo?)

[mtrycrafts]

I agree with the people that have recommended the Behringer A500. Why spend almost $1000 more for the same thing? It's just silly. Just because it's a "pro amp" does not rule it out for home theater. Most of the home theater amps are exhorbitantly expensive. Pro amps are all business and are priced accordingly.

Yes, that is a great amp if the looks are not an issue.

 

[Hi Ho]

You are right in that it does not look that great. However, I can't comprehend spending $1,000+ on asthetics.

 

[Leprkon]

I think you missed the point. Weight does not necessarily make an amplifier better is the point I made and that you did not refute. The argument and examples were not limited to class D amplifiers. Did you read the rest of the post?

It's not MY fault your SPECIFIC choice of an example makes YOU look like an idiot...

You missed MY point. Weight is just ONE example of how much less constrained amplifier designers are than receiver designers.

The bottom line is that the Yamaha guys make one hell of alot more compromises than the guys at Adcom. Something has to suffer from that.

 

[PENG]

It's not MY fault your SPECIFIC choice of an example makes YOU look like an idiot...

For those who own amps, me included, it's natural that we feel, or at least we like to think that amps make our systems sound better, even at low volume as some suggested. In a level matched DBT though, I am not confident that I could tell the difference between my receiver and my receiver plus the amp. I also do not know of anyone who had listened to my systems, could pass such DBT. That does not mean others who are more gifted in hearing could not tell the difference between different receivers and amps. It does mean not everyone can tell the difference.

That being said, it is good to see people like W_Harding posting their view points. I absolutely do not find him look like an idiot. I wish people wouldn't be so harsh on others who offer a different opinion. They simply present their view point as well as facts and figures, in response to the original poster's questions.

 

[Leprkon]

I absolutely do not find him look like an idiot.

Johnny Cochran could not have defended light weight = good with Class D amps.

Not that weight was my original point anyway, but neither of you care about that.

 

[PENG]

Not that weight was my original point anyway, but neither of you care about that.

Wrong! I am quite sure I got your point but I just wouldn't discount his.

I would also like to make the point that difference in sound quality between amps are obvious to some, but not so obvious to others. For those who could not tell the difference, they would have to justify the extra spending to themselves, with reasons (e.g. louder, better look, reliability etc.) other than sound quality.

 

[Leprkon]

So it's perfectly fine for him to whine "Give me a break" but I'm Mr Evil for calling him an idiot and then proving it ?

Sounds like there's a double standard here.........................

 

[PENG]

So it's perfectly fine for him to whine "Give me a break" but I'm Mr Evil for calling him an idiot and then proving it ?

Sounds like there's a double standard here.........................

One of your point was about amps not being (or less) subject to compromise in their design, weight being an example only. It is not hard for people to miss a point when engaged in a debate. It might have happened in this case, and of course you don't have to prove it. Sorry if I gave you that impression.

I just wish people from both camps would continue to express their view points without having to worry about being......... so others could benefit from it. More view points, especially those based on experience, combined with facts, would at least encourage newcomers to take the time to do their research, and most importantly, do some serious listening before spending their money on gear they may or may not benefit from.

 

[W_Harding]

It's not MY fault your SPECIFIC choice of an example makes YOU look like an idiot...

You missed MY point. Weight is just ONE example of how much less constrained amplifier designers are than receiver designers.

The bottom line is that the Yamaha guys make one hell of alot more compromises than the guys at Adcom. Something has to suffer from that.

I am glad to see that you feel that weight is only one example of what makes an amplifier better. It was the only example you used to prove your point, so maybe you can see why it seemed to others that it was your only criterion for quality. It may be that if your one specific example was not so narrow there would not have been any misunderstanding.